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On 24-05-2009 22:04:07 +0300, "C. Bergström" wrote: |
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> Fabian Groffen wrote: |
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> > On 24-05-2009 20:47:53 +0300, "C. Bergström" wrote: |
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> > |
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> >> Ummm.. my/our goal is to directly compete with sol10, sxce and |
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> >> opensolaris (if you consider the latter real competition).. Why mess |
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> >> with gentoo-alt-prefix + solaris when you can just use just about any |
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> >> ebuild from the main tree on top of the whole core? I'm not doing bulk |
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> > Because Solaris 10 is stable :P |
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> > (apart from not needing root, or being able to wipe out everything added |
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> > by simply rm -Rf-ing a single directory...) |
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> > |
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> Considering we're in discussions with the Open Group about becoming UNIX |
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> certified along with being used on NEBS compliant hardware in at least 1 |
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> CLEC I think we'll classify as "stable" in the near future. In fact I'd |
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> bet that the service entitlement you get from large vendor X wouldn't |
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> compare to having the source for everything and a community to back the |
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> bug fixes. Or is that more or less not the reason that linux has gained |
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> popularity over the big iron OS of the past? (This is not to mention |
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> the WORM/COMSTAR and various other patches we're porting over that |
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> aren't in sol10) |
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Good, enough plugging. Thanks. |
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> Also.. prefix is worthless for circumstances where you want to have core |
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> system files that need to be 64bit and aren't.. libhal was a good |
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> example in the past.. (which they do provide 64bit for now thankfully) |
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> This is on top of if you're actually doing any real development of the |
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> core os/zfs.. You'll probably need to patch zdb or other things.. |
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> Building onnv-gate by hand if you've ever done it is less than fun. |
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> patching dozens or hundreds of servers/zones under svr4 packaging is |
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> less than fun. |
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> </rant> |
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It's not about who is better. I don't think Prefix is worthless for |
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64-bits, as we do a pretty much good job there. This Prefix project is |
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built on top of some assumptions about our users, and discussing those |
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is useless. The rest is just a bit of taste for the situations where |
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you actually have the freedom to choose. I for one don't have much to |
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choose where I work, and to a certain extent I also don't desire to. |
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Fabian Groffen |
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Gentoo on a different level |
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