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On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 21:12 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: |
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> On 24-05-2009 22:04:07 +0300, "C. Bergström" wrote: |
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[snip] |
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> > Also.. prefix is worthless for circumstances where you want to have core |
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> > system files that need to be 64bit and aren't.. libhal was a good |
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> > example in the past.. (which they do provide 64bit for now thankfully) |
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> > This is on top of if you're actually doing any real development of the |
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> > core os/zfs.. You'll probably need to patch zdb or other things.. |
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> > Building onnv-gate by hand if you've ever done it is less than fun. |
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> > patching dozens or hundreds of servers/zones under svr4 packaging is |
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> > less than fun. |
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> > </rant> |
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> It's not about who is better. I don't think Prefix is worthless for |
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> 64-bits, as we do a pretty much good job there. This Prefix project is |
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> built on top of some assumptions about our users, and discussing those |
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> is useless. The rest is just a bit of taste for the situations where |
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> you actually have the freedom to choose. I for one don't have much to |
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> choose where I work, and to a certain extent I also don't desire to. |
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couldn't have said that better :) if you don't like prefix, than don't |
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use it. |
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Imagine a large company, having many, many development boxes, running |
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different OS' (AIX, Solaris, Linux, Windows, HP-UX) on different CPUs |
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(Xeon, UltraSparc, HP-PA, ...). prefix is absolutely priceless for |
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creating a common layer upon all these. this is required for us to be |
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able to maintain our millions of lines of code. otherwise we'd have to |
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fiddle with the build system all the time. |
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We also may not have root access on these boxes, so how could we |
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otherwise install cool stuff? I'd need prefix even on OSUNIX... |
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And the above is only *one* of the dozens of use cases of prefix. |
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i guess OSUNIX may be cool as desktop, but as soon as there are > 10 |
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users (and it's > 200 users here) on that machine, prefix is perfect to |
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allow people installing software. (not saying that OSUNIX may perform |
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bad with > 10 users, it's just a security/access thing... if it runs the |
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solaris kernel it is probably pretty well scalable.) |
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Cheers, Markus |
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