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From: Fabian Groffen <grobian@g.o>
To: gentoo-alt@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-alt] [PREFIX] About gentoo-x86 and us
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:01:41
Message-Id: 20090706090235.GA22557@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-alt] [PREFIX] About gentoo-x86 and us by Michael Haubenwallner
1 On 06-07-2009 09:45:40 +0200, Michael Haubenwallner wrote:
2 > On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 20:57 -0500, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
3 > > Fabian Groffen wrote:
4 >
5 > > > - update gx86 cvs checkout
6 > > > - rsync it without CVS dirs to the candidate image
7 >
8 > Wouldn't the official gx86 rsync mirror be sufficient to avoid the cvs
9 > checkout here?
10
11 they aren't up-to-date enough, and I don't have access/permission to rsync1
12
13 > > > - update Prefix tree svn checkout
14 > > > - remove all packages in the candidate image which exist in the Prefix
15 > > > tree
16 > > > - rsync the Prefix tree without .svn dirs over the candidate image
17 > > > - distribute the candidate image to rsync1
18 >
19 > While I'm aware that we will have to use the whole gx86 tree once, it
20 > feels like too early to bloat the prefix tree by >11500 packages (>13700
21 > packages in gx86 versus >2200 in prefix).
22
23 Does it matter? Apart from size? With metadata it's pretty fast.
24
25 > Eventually keep some list of packages (or directories) to incorporate
26 > unmodified from gx86 (profiles, eclass, mail-client/mutt) for prefix
27 > rsync generation instead...
28
29 How? The objective was to *reduce* overhead/maintenance for me, not to
30 add more stuff around it. Frankly, I'm getting quite sick of syncing
31 and merging my and other's changes back and forth between Prefix tree
32 and gx86.
33
34 > > Wouldn't it be more worthwhile to merge our portage changes back to
35 > > trunk and get a prefix aware portage released officially before we worry
36 > > about merging individual packages/eclasses?
37 >
38 > Agreed, sys-apps/portage should be one of the very first prefix-aware
39 > packages in gx86. This would allow for easy bootstrapping some Prefix
40 > instances on top of a normal Gentoo Linux without the need to manually
41 > install the initial prefix-aware portage.
42
43 Is there anyone going to help me out with this?
44
45 > And when we add some app-portage/eprefix-bootstrap.ebuild to gx86,
46 > normal gx86 users&devs could enjoy the Prefix world somehow easily,
47 > using their /usr/portage/ with Prefix tree as usual overlay (TODO:
48 > finish this thought)...
49
50 I don't see this of any real use, and only forsee more and more
51 maintenance burden (probably mostly for me).
52
53
54 --
55 Fabian Groffen
56 Gentoo on a different level

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Re: [gentoo-alt] [PREFIX] About gentoo-x86 and us Michael Haubenwallner <haubi@g.o>