Re: [gentoo-alt] Gentoo with mingw ?

[Xavier Miller]

Hello Markus,

This is a good idea porting Gentoo for Interix, which is very useful in 
the enterprise world.

For home users, I would prefer more light (and thus less complete) 
solutions.

Cygwin is quite like Interix : a UNIX environment in Windows.
The gentoo-cygwin project is dead and uncomplete.

mingwin (and its shell msys) is minimal, it has only a shell and base 
packages in order to be able to compile (mingw-utils & w32api, 
coreutils, binutils, gcc, autoconf, automake, libtool, gettext, ...).

The idea of mingwin is to have native applications without POSIX 
dependency (just windows), and built in a minimal POSIX shell.

But it is a mess to find what package is the best to use, so I thought 
to find a package manager for it. And when you need to compile a more 
complex application, you need to find yourself the dependancies of the 
packages, and how to build each of it.

My dream is to be able to start from msys and a minimal "Gentoo stage 1" 
in order to bootstrap it and boost it with Gentoo ! And get working 
Win32-mingw applications easily packageable.

If that project work, the numerous "how to compile ..." would be simple :
- install Gentoo-Mingw
- emerge --sync
- emerge my_soft (eventually using binary packages)
- run it !

Xavier


Markus Duft a écrit :
>> Hmm... I don't see any limitation at the download page:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=93FF2201-325E-
>> 487F-A398-EFDE5758C47F&displaylang=en
>
> Yeah, it seems i was right, and SUA runs on any SP1 vista.
>
>> I will take a try some day, even I find installing 500Mb to run
>> GentooAlt is quite overkill, compared to msys/mingw.
>
> Interix was what we where using at our company, and so I started porting
> prefix to it. Wether this is the best or not was never the discussion
> (although I feel that interix behaves more predictable (not necessarily
> better) than cygwin. I had more trouble getting software to run on cygwin
> than on interix). I can't tell about msys, since I've never used it - but I
> think it's not a very complete environment, is it?
>
> Cheers, Markus
>
>> Xavier Miller a écrit :
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> SUA is only available with "not home" versions of Vista, even with
>> SP1.
>>> Thus "Home" users are left on the side of the road. I think that if
>> we
>>> would have a more universal "Gentoo on Windows", we also should think
>>> about mingwin+msys or cygwin.
>>>
>>> So I will take a look at the Interix port and see how difficult it
>> would
>>> be to adapt it to mingw.
>>>
>>> Xavier.
>>>
>>> Markus Duft a écrit :
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a projet to run Gentoo / Gentoo Prefix with mingw (+
>> msys)?
>>>>> I took a look at Interix but it doensn't run with Windows Vista
>> Home
>>>> I thought this was solved with vista SP1? Am I wrong here?
>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>> I would like a more "free" system, like Cygwin or Mingw.
>>>>>
>>>>> What would be the better approach : starting from old cygwin-
>> portage or
>>>>> gentoo-prefix@interix?
>>>> I think the interix version ist he more current one, although mingw
>>>> will be
>>>> much different I guess. Still the interix port is the best starting
>> point
>>>> you will ever get for this, I guess...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Markus
>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Xavier Miller
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