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From: Michael Haubenwallner <haubi@g.o>
Subject: Re: AIX linking adventure
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 09:49:14 +0100
Hi Perry!

On 02/08/2011 01:35 AM, Perry Smith wrote:
> This is *not* ready for prime time but I thought I would mention it here.
> I wrote a front end to AIX's ld command as well as a relink command I'm calling "rl".

Actually, in Prefix we already do wrap AIX' ld in sys-devel/binutils-config
to get the runpaths (the -blibpath argument) right.

At the moment I'm trying another thing to get full "soname" support,
both with and without libtool, using Import Files. There is an RFC[1]
for the way I want to have shared libraries being created on AIX.

However, I'm still unsure if we actually should use the '# autoload' thingy,
but ignore the auto-dependency problem[2] instead.


Additionally, for packages not using libtool, there's another ld wrapper in
sys-devel/native-cctools waiting for checkin here to support the '-soname' flag
known on ELF (Linux), creating the shared libraries according to above way[1].
Eventually, this second wrapper would be merged into binutils-config's wrapper.

> You can see them here:

Commenting on 'Readme.markdown' found there:
Why do you move '-blibpath' arguments to '-L' arguments?
IMO, the other way round would make more sense actually.
Why do you need 'rl' (relink) at all?

> I've used this only for Ruby -- and it was in fact Ruby that caused me to do this.
> Their out of the box system does not work at all for AIX if the prefix directory is not the same as GCC's.
> WIth this, I can now use rvm on AIX and do "rvm install 1.9.1" and it will complete successfully without my fingers leaving my hands.

Haven't used/installed Ruby on any platform yet: What is 'rvm' ?

> I mentioned this idea on this list before but it didn't fly very well.
> I'm not sure if it was completely understood.

I fail to find that post you're referring to. Has it been within one
of the threads we already created together, and I've overlooked it?

> This is more of a proof of concept at this stage.  I'm going to putter around and try and use it on other packages.

For packages not aware of AIX at all:
How would this require their build systems to be patched?

> "rl" could be enhanced to take "from" and "to" directories.
> If you wanted to change files installed in /some/old/directory and put them into /some/new/directory, rl could easily modified do that.

In which context do you need this use case?
And how would you do that on Linux?

Michael Haubenwallner
Gentoo on a different level

Re: AIX linking adventure
-- Perry Smith
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