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On Friday 10 March 2006 20:58, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> wrote about |
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'[gentoo-amd64] Re: /dev/hda1 won't mount from grub': |
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> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. posted <200603101957.57631.bss03@××××××××××.net>, |
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> excerpted below, on Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:57:57 -0600: |
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> > *I* run ext2/3 on boot because when I installed I didn't know 2 things |
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> > (1) notail makes grub work or (2) you can tell reiser to use less than |
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> > 33M for journal. Also, it can make some system recovery easier -- |
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> > since ext2/3 is the most widely built-in filesystem, among linux |
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> > kernels. |
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> AFAIK, the notail for /boot requirement is looonngg obsolete. I've been |
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> running reiserfs with tails on for /years/ now, since Mandrake |
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> 8.1/eXPrivacy, which is when I switched from MSWormOS since I chose to |
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> upgrade to Linux rather than take MS' anti-privacy downgrade. That's |
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> what, four or five years ago now? Neither LILO nor GRUB nor x86 nor |
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> amd64 nor Mandrake/Mandriva nor Gentoo, seem to have a problem with |
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> Reiserfs tails at this point, and while I believe it was LILO that could |
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> cope with them first, GRUB hasn't had issues for awhile, either. |
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*Shrug* |
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We fixed a boot issue last year on gentoo-user with the |
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mount-notail-touch-everything-reinstall-grub technique. Maybe it's only |
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certain tail'd layouts, or maybe just a simple re-install of grub would |
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have done it. I've never encountered the problem myself. |
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> Either that or nothing I use now or have used since I switched to Linux |
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> has had a tail, and I find that rather hard to believe. |
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Well, tail only affects reiser AFAIK. But, tail has been the default on |
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reiser for a /while/ if not always. I hear in reiser4 you won't even be |
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able to turn it off. |
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> You /do/ have a point with the system recovery, however. As well, some |
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> consider reiserfs not entirely stable, tho if folks have backups as they |
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> should, that shouldn't be an issue, and it's never been one here, |
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> certainly since data=ordered became the reiserfs default (as I believe |
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> it is with ext3). |
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Agreed. Reiser (3) has been rock-solid on my systems for years, and gentoo |
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supports it on the live CD, so that's my system recovery tool. |
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"If there's one thing we've established over the years, |
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it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest |
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clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." |
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-- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh |
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