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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: Re: Re: Wow! KDE 3.5.1 & Xorg 7.0 w/ Composite
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 03:19:02
Message-Id: pan.2006.02.10.03.15.42.472473@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: Re: Wow! KDE 3.5.1 & Xorg 7.0 w/ Composite by Simon Stelling
1 Simon Stelling posted <43EB0293.3020406@g.o>, excerpted below, on
2 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:51:31 +0100:
3
4 > AFAIK the toolchain eclass doesn't strip -Os, it replaces -O? with -O2, which
5 > also enables -fomit-frame-pointer.
6
7 I hadn't thought about that, but come to think of it, I think you are
8 indeed correct. I'll have to check, and may just be removing it, as my
9 CFLAGS string is certainly long enough without it! <g>
10
11 > On amd64 frame-pointers aren't needed to do debugging, so it doesn't
12 > have any impact.
13
14 Ahh... I had wondered about that, and seen hints to that effect, but no
15 direct statement. Good to know!
16
17 >> There is [a bug filed]. I don't recall if I filed it or if it was
18 >> already there, but both JH and the portage folks know about the issue.
19 >> IIRC, the portage folks decided it was their side that needed changed,
20 >> but that required changes to the distcc package, and I don't know how
21 >> that has gone since I don't use distcc, except that I was slightly
22 >> surprised to see the warning in portage 2.1 still.
23 >
24 > Ah, very good :)
25
26 I should probably look it up and see what the status is... AFAIK, eselect
27 compiler is mostly working, but it still doesn't handle the conversion
28 from gcc-config correctly on amd64 (and I noticed recently, with the
29 gcc-4.1 snapshots, it doesn't remove the old config when the snapshot is
30 upgraded, but I haven't looked into it). IIRC, tho, JH said he wasn't
31 going to have much time for awhile, due to school I think it was, so
32 that's kinda in suspended animation ATM.
33
34 >> That's what was nice about configcache, which was supposed to be in the
35 >> next portage, but I haven't seen or heard anything about it for awhile,
36 >> and the next portage, 2.1, is what I'm using. configcache seriously
37 >> shortened that stage of the build, leaving more of it parallelized,
38 >> but...
39 >>
40 > Good news ;)
41 >
42 > ferringb has been asking for testing for quite a while now and recently
43 > he sent a mail to the portage-dev mailing list, basically saying that if
44 > nobody steps up with a good reason, he will include the confcache patch
45 > with the next release.
46
47 Good news indeed! =8^) Looking forward to it!
48
49 ... I've been thinking about joining the portage list, and in fact have
50 it subscribed here in PAN (on gmane), but I haven't actually had time to
51 go thru the list history and get in context. Likewise with the docs list,
52 as a number of folks have suggested I'd be good at that, what with my 600
53 line posts and the like. <g>
54
55 >> BTW, what is your opinion on -ftracer? Several devs I've noticed use
56 >> it, but the manpage says it's not that useful without active profiling,
57 >> which means compiling, profiling, and recompiling, AFAIK.
58 >
59 > I don't use it, but not for a certain reason, so I really can't comment
60 > on this.
61
62 Probably my reason -- you just can't see from the manpage what use it
63 would be to you. =8^)
64
65 I /think/ I noticed Spyderous using it, and anyone that can maintain the
66 complexity that's xorg certainly gets my respect. I've been looking for a
67 good non-disruptive excuse to ask him, but haven't yet found one,
68 unfortunately.
69
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73 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in
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