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From: Mark <whitetr6@...>
Subject: Re: Re: emerge --emptytree problem
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:09:32 -0400
Thanks all. Well, sometime in the middle of the night, the build
failed again, this time on ldap, while trying to install samba. I
think what I'll do is scale the USE list wayyyy back.

As I'm reading more, and especially from the comments from those who
have responded here, I think my approach is wrong. The first time I
installed Gentoo, which was 2004.3, I used a USE list almost identical
to what's in the manual, because I had no idea what would work and
what wouldn't.

That gave me a pretty stable system, except some programs would grab
all of the CPU for a minute or two (e.g. PAN newsreader). Then one
night I did an emerge --update world, made the suggested updates with
etc-update, and rebooted. I no longer had a usable kde at that point.
So, not worrying about the few things I'd lose, I just started
rebuilding from scratch, which brings me to now.

I'm going to research some more and see how much I can learn about
setting these options before I try again.

On 7/11/05, John C. Shimek <jcshimek@...> wrote:
> I remember having problems with java and perl dependencies on the Gentoo
> 1.4 I think it was.  I don't remember exactly what being 2 years ago and
> that being my very first experience to Gentoo.  I thought it had been
> fixed but I don't know anymore.  Setting -java in the USE flags was my
> work around too and I have not had any problems.  I have since added it
> back in.  It was just required for the initial build for me.
> John C. Shimek
> Duncan wrote:
> >Mark posted <1f81f7e0050710155471f76f63@...>, excerpted below,
> >on Sun, 10 Jul 2005 18:54:37 -0400:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Well, I *think* I have it figured out. After setting up the logging, I
> >>fired up the build again, and when it finally failed, there was a message
> >>"you need perl 5" during the openssl package install. So I tried emerging
> >>perl by itself, and it fails because the java ebuild was not in the
> >>portage directory. So I changed java in my USE= list to -java, and
> >>restarted the build. So far, it's going well. My question I guess is, did
> >>I come up with the right solution, or will having -java in my USE= list
> >>cause me problems later on?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >As Jared says, nothing in the system or normal non-system core packages
> >require Java (save for OOo, which might, I know the 2.x versions do, if
> >you call that "core" for your use). USE=-java /does/ speed up gcc compile
> >time in particular, and as long as you don't have any specific packages in
> >your personal "must-have" list that are Java based, it should be fine.
> >
> >For this reason, it's likely many/most devs and list regulars have
> >USE=-java, so system building with +java is likely far less tested than
> >with -java.  It's quite possible there's some circular dependency issue
> >involving the java USE flag, that simply hasn't been discovered yet, for
> >that reason.  Once you get your USE=-java emerge --emptytree completed, if
> >desired, you can probably reactivate USE=java and do an emerge --newuse,
> >with no further issues.  If indeed that's the case, and you feel like
> >pursuing the issue far enough to file a decent bug report on whatever
> >circular dependency was killing the emerge --emptytree, with USE=java,
> >it's quite likely the devs involved would be appreciative, as those
> >circular dependency issues can be tough to track down, as well as
> >challenging to resolve, but doing so results in a much more dependable
> >Gentoo.
> >
> >
> >
> --
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