Gentoo Archives: gentoo-amd64

From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: intel processors x gentoo
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 04:03:24
Message-Id: pan.2010.10.28.03.51.20@cox.net
In Reply to: [gentoo-amd64] Re: intel processors x gentoo by Lie Ryan
1 Lie Ryan posted on Thu, 28 Oct 2010 06:20:45 +1100 as excerpted:
2
3 > On 09/29/10 03:03, Zhu Sha Zang wrote:
4 >> I have some machines running gentoo and every machine running under
5 >> AMD Processors (64-bit profile), everything is right. Every source code
6 >> compile fine.
7 >>
8 >> But, some machines, i've installed under Intel Core 2 Quad or i7
9 >> processor and this machines have problem compile especific 2 packages:
10
11 >> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"
12 >
13 > I doubt you would want that.
14
15 Why not?
16
17 That statement implies that you don't either don't understand what
18 keywords are all about, or you don't understand what that specific keyword
19 means.
20
21 If the statement is taken in the one context, if he's running the 64-bit
22 x86 instruction set, on Gentoo, the keyword for it is amd64, regardless of
23 who (AMD, Intel, Via...) makes the chip it's running on. For one thing,
24 Gentoo's support for that instruction set originated before anyone else
25 had picked it up, and AMD called it AMD64.[1]
26
27 That's why this list is the gentoo/amd64 list as well, because that's what
28 Gentoo calls the arch/instruction-set, regardless of who creates the
29 hardware.
30
31 Unless of course you're arguing that he likely wants ~amd64 instead,
32 which /is/ something that could be argued (I run ~amd64 on my 64-bit
33 machine and ~x86 on my 32-bit-only Atom netbook...). But that's going to
34 require a /lot/ more than a simple "I doubt you would want that" in
35 reference to the stable version, to back up /that/ argument, to the point
36 I can't see anyone logically making the claim you made in that context,
37 either.
38
39 ----
40 [1] For another, AMD originated it, and that's what they call it, so it
41 can be argued that is it's "proper" name, even if generically, x86_64 also
42 often used (as it is for the kernel, but due to the _ it's harder to
43 type), or x64 (which is confusing for a few reasons, not the least of
44 which is that 64 is less than 86, but it's the newer and arguably "better"
45 instruction set, but I do think MS uses it), or by Intel as em64t or some
46 such.
47
48 --
49 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
50 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
51 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman

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