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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: memory
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:14:43
Message-Id: pan.2005.12.07.18.07.47.553257@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] memory by Billy Holmes
1 Billy Holmes posted <4396F711.9050708@××××××.net>, excerpted below, on
2 Wed, 07 Dec 2005 09:52:01 -0500:
3
4 > Conway S. Smith wrote:
5 >> assumption on this list, then you automatically get support for well
6 >> over 4GiB of memory (I can't remember exactly how much is supported, but
7 >
8 > If we low ball it and just assume 48-bits are used to address memory, then
9 > that's
10 >
11 > 256 Terabytes of RAM :)
12 >
13 > I think we're safe for the time being.
14
15 The current AMD spec says the CPUs offer 40-bit physical memory
16 addressing, 48-bit virtual memory addressing. So, 256 TB virtual memory,
17 but only a terabyte physical memory, in a flat-address configuration.
18 However, given that terabyte disks are only now becoming feasible, and
19 thinking back to where memory was when gigabyte disks were at that stage,
20 we still have several year's worth of progress before a typical
21 configuration has to start worrying about that. I'm sure AMD and Intel
22 will both have long addressed the problem by the time it appears,
23 increasing usable physical address bitcount to 48 or higher. It's not
24 like there's another barrier of similar significance to 32-bit, out until
25 64-bit, which is far enough beyond current technology that it's no use
26 planning beyond that, because we don't know what the rest of technology
27 will look like by then, so we can't predict what the solution once that
28 point is reached, might be.
29
30 In the mean time, even a single TB of physical memory will be enough for
31 most uses, for several years yet. In the extremes where it's not, the
32 techniques for non-flat memory are well developed from 32-bit land, and
33 can be used where needed.
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36 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
37 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
38 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in
39 http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html
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