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Frank Peters posted on Tue, 23 Aug 2011 19:46:29 -0400 as excerpted: |
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> Actually I much prefer Sylpheed over all other email clients and I use |
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> it almost exclusively. |
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Interesting. I had been a kmail user for nearly a decade, since |
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switching from MS and MSOE back in late-2001/early-2002 (when MS pushed |
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me off with eXPrivacy), but after adopting a wait-and-see attitude toward |
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akonadi, with 4.6 I waited and saw enough, and switched to claws-mail in |
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time to avoid emerging kmail for kde 4.7. |
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Way back when I was switching from MS and choosing my apps then, I had |
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tried sylpheed and the (then) sylpheed-claws, but something, I've long |
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forgotten what, wasn't quite right for me, and I ended up on kmail |
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instead. Of course that was a long long time ago, and features, etc, |
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have rather changed, so whatever was the problem then very likely isn't |
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one now. |
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Anyway, I've been extremely impressed with claws-mail, using it both for |
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mail, and, in another instance (I had to set $HOME and $TMPDIR in a |
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wrapper script so it didn't try to use the mail instance) with the rss- |
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reader plugin, for feeds (as a replacement to akregator, which seems to |
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have fallen well behind the times in its ability to filter, etc, as well |
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as the fact that while it doesn't use akonadi directly, it uses kdepim- |
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common-libs, which pulls in akonadi even if nothing's really using it). |
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I've long used pan for news (nntp), but after seeing how well claws works |
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for mail and for rss and atom feeds, I'm thinking I might try it for news |
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as well, at least for my text groups. |
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Anyway, given that claws originated as the development version of |
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sylpheed, I've wondered what the practical differences are. I did try |
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sylpheed, but other than seeming to be a slightly older version of claws, |
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with correspondingly slightly less features, etc, and the rather more |
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marked Japanese origin (the homesite is in English/Japanese, but some of |
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the more info links are only Japanese), I didn't see a lot of difference. |
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So I've been wondering what the rest of the story might be, and why |
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people, at least non-Japanese (no offense, just that info's easier to |
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absorb if it's not filtered thru google translate or the like), might |
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prefer sylpheed to claws. If you could shed some light on either the |
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difference in emphasis and split, or why you personally prefer sylpheed, |
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I'd be quite interested. =:^) |
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(FWIW, the only guess I have is that perhaps with the switch to gtk2, the |
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sylpheed dev preferred not to enable customized hotkeys to the degree |
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that claws has, since as I found out, /every/ and I really do mean / |
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every/ single bit of functionality in claws seems to be exposed with a |
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possible hotkey customization. While kde is pretty good with hotkey |
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customization most of the time, it doesn't expose /every/ little function |
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as a hotkey, as claws seems to! I'm sort of familiar with how the gtk2 |
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hotkey dump functionality works from pan, too, but claws really does seem |
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to take configurable hotkeys to all to an /entirely/ different level. |
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It's possible the same general idea applies to the filtering and external |
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commands functionality, too, as claws seems to be very good with that as |
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well. But that's only a guess.) |
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> But there are times when I need to communicate to someone that is using |
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> MS Outlook on the other end and for that purpose I will pull thunderbird |
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> out of the closet and compose a message in HTML format. MS users can't |
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> seem to appreciate, or even understand, anything else. |
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Argh! If they want to read my mail, they can very well read it in plain |
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text, or add the HTML themselves (as effectively happens when they read |
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it in webmail, as my folks do). I'm sure if it hasn't already been done, |
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someone could come up with a script that adds tags either randomly or |
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based on some scheme, changing fontface, fontsize, fontcolor, adding |
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graphics including graphical smileys, etc. |
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FWIW, one of the things that's so great about claws is its html-filtering |
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mode, which reduces everything, including all those feeds which obviously |
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in XML, into plain text, and does a rather good job at it if I DO say |
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so! I was thinking about using gwene.org feeds2news for the feeds, since |
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I already use gmane.org lists2news for my mailing lists, and then using |
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pan, but because the feeds are XML and pan simply parses it as plain |
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text, raw tags and all, that didn't work well AT ALL when I tried it. |
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But by then I was already using claws for mail, and noted its html2text |
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mode, so decided to try it. I've been VERY pleasantly surprised with the |
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results, AND the speed, so far. =:^) |
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Anyway, if claws can do so well at deHTMLifying things, certainly a |
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script could be designed to HTMLify things as well, for those who wished |
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it that way. I imagine it could even be designed to randomly insert |
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various webbugs, other spyware, script-aided exploits, etc. just like the |
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real thing, so people could REALLY feel at home with their |
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candy-over-security choice! =:^\ |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |