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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: emerge system set list
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:02:51
Message-Id: pan.2012.06.05.03.42.54@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] emerge system set list by Daiajo Tibdixious
1 Daiajo Tibdixious posted on Tue, 05 Jun 2012 09:52:15 +1000 as excerpted:
2
3 > I forgot about the dependent packages. I might forget about separating
4 > system & world & just backup all the binpkg's
5
6 FWIW, that's pretty much what I do here (but with all packages together,
7 not separate @system/@world). I use FEATURES=binpkg and have a separate
8 binpkgs partition, then a second partition of the same size that I mkfs
9 and copy everything from the first one to, every so often.
10
11 Binpkg partition size is now 8 gigs. 3 gigs works if you clean out all
12 the old binpkgs regularly (eclean), and I ran 4 gigs for awhile, but I
13 run the kde betas (as of yesterday, 4.8.80 aka 4.9-beta1) and like to
14 keep plenty of room for the last upstream-stable I had (4.8.3) plus the
15 last and current betas, and found 4 gig a bit tight for that, so when I
16 upgraded disks, I doubled the size to 8 gigs, tho 6 probably would have
17 done as well.
18
19 It doesn't matter so much on a packages partition as the files are large,
20 but FWIW I run reiserfs with tail-packing on, as I can't see wasting all
21 the partial blocks, and reiserfs has been quite stable for me (even thru
22 hardware issues) since data=ordered mode was introduced back in 2.6.16 or
23 so. It makes a BIG difference on the sources (both gentoo/overlay trees
24 and kernel, plus ccache) partition, tho. (I'm looking forward to the
25 still experimental btrfs, but tried it recently and it's not solid yet,
26 particularly in the case of hard-reboots, etc. Lost files is NOT my
27 thing, and missing parts of files or having files replaced with the
28 contents of other files is worse, hard reboot or no hard reboot, so it
29 was back to the tried and tested, for me.)
30
31 FWIW, I use the dup-partition thing for everything. Put it on raid1
32 (again, looking forward to btrfs raid1 mode) if you have it, so losing a
33 disk won't kill things either, and you're set for either loss of disk
34 (raid1) or fat-fingering something (backup partition). Three copies of
35 root (working and two backups), in case both the working and a backup go
36 down while I'm doing maintenance, two of everything else.
37
38 (If you have multiple disks in md/raid1 or similar, making /boot a normal
39 partition or a raid1 of half the drives if more than two, with its backup
40 a similar partition on the other drive(s), works well. Select which one
41 you want to boot in bios, and upgrade one at a time then test before
42 upgrading the other, when doing bootloader upgrades. That works well for
43 git kernels too, only upgrading the backup /boot with full kernel
44 releases, keeping the git kernels on the working /boot. If just a single
45 disk, than obviously more than one /boot doesn't help that much since the
46 initial sector bootloader can only point to one /boot.)
47
48 --
49 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
50 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
51 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman

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