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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: catch 22 with realtime-lsm and commoncap (capability dependency) modules
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:53:21
Message-Id: pan.2006.04.24.05.51.23.72192@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: catch 22 with realtime-lsm and commoncap (capability dependency) modules by Mark Knecht
1 Mark Knecht posted
2 <5bdc1c8b0604232127m36e41816hd387e5da9e620d3e@××××××××××.com>, excerpted
3 below, on Sun, 23 Apr 2006 21:27:17 -0700:
4
5 > Just keep in mind that LSM **IS** going away. It's not an IF, it's a
6 > WHEN.
7
8 ?? LSM -- the kernel Linux Security Module framework, or realtime-lsm (as
9 your previous post implied) specifically?
10
11 As far as I was aware, there had been discussions of eliminating the LSM
12 plugin framework entirely, if nothing else was merged into mainline that
13 used it. I believe the traditional capabilities module was the only thing
14 in mainline that really used it. (The other option there, BSD security
15 levels, was apparently only using it as a convenience, but could just as
16 easily do without. The rootplug module was a simple coding sample, little
17 more.)
18
19 However, I had believed the discussion had been shelved, after putting
20 people on notice that LSM /might/ be removed, until some later date,
21 giving folks time in the meantime to propose additional plugins and make
22 their case for inclusion in mainline. (The idea being that if it's not in
23 mainline, it's a patch anyway, and they might as well patch the
24 functionality now being maintained with LSM into it at the same time, if
25 they use it.)
26
27 Looking at the config for 2.6.17-rc2, I see socket and networking security
28 hooks as another option under LSM, which I don't remember from before.
29 Perhaps this has been added as a result of the previous discussion.
30
31 Anyway, to say that LSM IS going away, WHEN, not IF, is a significantly
32 stronger statement than I had yet seen. Thus, clarification is needed.
33 Are/were you just referring to realtime-lsm, as your previous post
34 implied, and you just mis-typed here, or is there a definitive LSM IS
35 going away, that I wasn't aware of? As far as I knew, it was an open
36 question, and indeed, as much designed to try to get folks to push their
37 LSM modules (of which there were several outside of mainline) into
38 mainline, as it was a question of killing mainline LSM entirely. A
39 strong statement such as the above needs stronger than average support,
40 references and/or at least supporting background information.
41
42 So... spill the beans! =8^)
43
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46 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
47 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in
48 http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html
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