Gentoo Archives: gentoo-amd64

From: Matt Randolph <mattr@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] backups and world updates
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:48:28
Message-Id: 42E8FDFC.6000509@erols.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] backups and world updates by Roy Wright
1 Roy Wright wrote:
2
3 > Most of the time, I just open an konsole and do the
4 > update. Occasionally I'll postpone if the update looks
5 > really large or time consuming. For major gui components
6 > like KDE or xorg, I'll exit KDE and emerge from the
7 > command line over the weekend (ok, probably overly
8 > cautious, but I was burned once).
9
10
11 I have emerged kde and xorg-x11 from within kde without any problems. I
12 was even emerging firefox while surfing the web. I probably played some
13 Doom III too.
14
15 > Occasionally I'll get a blocking condition. I really think
16 > twice now before just unblocking via package.keywords.
17 > I've found that waiting a day or two might result in
18 > portage handling the unblocking.
19
20 Firefox is a good example. When mozilla-firefox-1.0.5 came out in ~arch
21 in response to a GLSA, it hit +arch within the next 24-36 hours, if I
22 recall. I would just "ACCEPT_KEYWORDS='~amd64' emerge -a
23 mozilla-firefox" in these situations rather than messing with
24 package.keywords. Then, I'd just keep an eye out for new stable
25 packages and emerge them as appropriate. If you unblock via
26 package.keywords you will be resigning yourself to always using a
27 testing version, thus exposing yourself to more new bugs than if you
28 stayed in stable.
29
30 However, if you simply wait a day or two, you are leaving yourself
31 susceptible to exploits for that entire time. Think about how many
32 spams arrive in thunderbird in that amount of time. It would only take
33 one hastily written spam exploiting the right vulnerability and then
34 POW! As unlikely as that may be, I'd rather install security updates
35 the very instant I find out about them instead.
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38 "Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate" - W. of O.
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