Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: provide net

[Dave Crane]

On Thursday 29 December 2005 19:10, Duncan wrote:

> How do you figure?  One size doesn't fit all, but you are asking that your
> size fits all?

No, whomever made apache2 "need net" instead of "use net" made the decision 
for me (negating the admin).  Now, I cannot use apache2 locally with my laptop 
without changing rc.conf.

Just for comparison NFS would be pretty useless without a non-lo network and 
yet amazingly it's listed as "use net", not "need net" (portmap too).

> As for discovering the variable, it's the job of a sysadmin, which in
> effect everyone choosing to run Gentoo on their system is, to be familiar
> with at least the basic settings on their installation.  This is one such
> basic setting, in a very general location, too, not hidden away,
> impossible to find.  Being expected to be aware of such basic settings
> just comes  with the territory.

I know the variable well.  Obviously Mr. Milesi did not, and in this 
particular case it seems an assumption, apache is only useful across a 
non-local connection, has bit him.

I like Gentoo and have used it for years, because it usually doesn't make 
assumptions for me.  Also, discussions like this rarely devolve into pissing 
matches like I was used to with other distros previously.  

On another note, I use softlevels/custom inits extensively to work around 
problems like this one.  I can't imagine I'm the only one. I've also extended 
the softlevels to conf.d, so I have a conf.d-laptopoffline directory to 
correspond to the softlevel laptopoffline for alternate configs.  I'm not 
sure if this is supported otherwise.  I use this for laptops and cold spare 
servers (change their config completely at boot or with init).

dave
-- 
gentoo-amd64@g.o mailing list