Gentoo Archives: gentoo-amd64

From: B Vance <bvance@×××××.ca>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] error updating deep world>> gentoo general
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:58:33
Message-Id: 1137851797.27662.37.camel@ShadowAerie.ShadowRealm
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] error updating deep world>> gentoo general by Gavin Seddon
1 On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 10:45 +0000, Gavin Seddon wrote:
2 > That's valuable info. These dual core amd's are on ebay for
3 > 'next-to-nothing', pls tell me more, what are the PPC machines, I have
4 > seen PPC to be an option for a Gentoo dist. but didn't know what it is.
5 >
6 > > There's a reason that Itinium was called the Itanic.... It's probably
7 > > the biggest waste of effort Intel and HP have ever embarked on. Next to
8 > > no-one supports it, and it's special features arn't really all that
9 > > special compared to the average Opteron. If you want the most
10 > > robust/fastest chipset, Power chips are the way to go. (Not Power PC
11 > > (PPC), just Power chips). A workstation running dual Power5 chips would
12 > > more or less obliterate anything you could care to throw at it.
13 > >
14 > > If you're strictly speaking of the x86 world of chips (Which btw the
15 > > Itanium isn't really more then >85% compatible) then the dual core
16 > > socket 940 opterons are still the best chip, followed by the dual core
17 > > socket 939 Athlon 64s. If you are running a rack or thirty of blades,
18 > > the difference between the IA64 and the AMD64 heat output and wattage
19 > > ingestion more then pays for itself. Performance wise, the Opterons are
20 > > also far enough ahead of the Intel offerings to make it worthwhile to
21 > > stick with AMD.
22 > >
23 > > YMMV and My opinions are my own.
24 > >
25 > --
26 > Dr Gavin Seddon
27 > School of Pharmacy and Pharmaceutical Sciences
28 > University of Manchester
29 > Oxford Road, Manchester
30 > M13 9PL, U.K.
31 >
32 PPC is the chip-set formerly used by Apple aka G4 & G5. They run slower
33 then an x86 chip-set, but pack more into each cycle (For more info on
34 that look up the RISC vs. CISC debate/comparisons such as here:
35 http://cse.stanford.edu/class/sophomore-college/projects-00/risc/risccisc/ ). Generally speaking, with software designed for it, a G5 2.1 GHz is roughly equivalent in power to a ~AMD64 3000+.
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37 However, you'll note I suggested the Power chip, not the Power PC chip.
38 The Power chip is a series of chips designed and manufactured by IBM for
39 use in heavy workstations and servers. The current generation of the
40 Power series is called the Power5.(Links to press nause:
41 http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/p/news/pressreleases/2005/oct/annc_1004.html & http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/494/mackerras.html) I don't know if Gentoo supports the Power series of chips, but I do know that IBM has gotten SuSE and RedHat (at minimum) ported onto it (More useful links: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/power/articles.html ).
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43 Hope this helps.
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45 B. Vance
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