<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Dale <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalek1967@...">rdalek1967@...</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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On Thu, 9 Dec 2010 10:04:52 +0000 (UTC)<br>
Duncan&lt;<a href="mailto:1i5t5.duncan@..." target="_blank">1i5t5.duncan@...</a>&gt;  wrote:<br>
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Stan Sander wrote:<br>
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In addition to using grub-static, you will need to have the IA32<br>
Emulation enabled in your kernel, else you won&#39;t be able to execute<br>
grub at all.  It&#39;s under file formats / Emulations in the menu.<br>
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I think that&#39;s covered in the handbook, now, but posting&#39;s still good,<br>
just in case it would have been overlooked.  FWIW when I first switched to<br>
no-multilib, before I did the 32-bit chroot thing, I tried turning off<br>
that option in the kernel... and found I couldn&#39;t run... I think it was<br>
lilo I was running at the time, properly, so it&#39;s definitely worth<br>
remembering.<br>
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Lilo doesn&#39;t need the kernel at all.  I have IA32 turned off and I use<br>
lilo to boot.  There is no problem.<br>
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Unless there is some special requirement, most people probably use grub<br>
because of the &quot;follow the leader&quot; syndrome.  Lilo is still quite effective<br>
and also quite simple.  Fortunately, the Gentoo overlords have not removed<br>
lilo from the portage tree, but if they ever do, I will just compile it<br>
myself.  Continuous change is not a law of the universe.  Some methods<br>
never become obsolete (out of fashion perhaps, but fashion should never<br>
be the final guide).<br>
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Frank Peters<br>
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No offense intended but I have used both lilo and grub.  I used lilo first and for me, it was a nightmare.  Fixing even a small typo was painful for me.  I switched to grub and the difference was like flying the space shuttle or riding a tri-cycle.  Let&#39;s remove the computers from the space shuttle just to make it as difficult.<br>

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I may have to use lilo one day but grub will be long dead and will not compile on any rig I have.<br><font color="#888888">
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Dale<br>
<br></font></blockquote><div><br>Good analogy.  My issue with grub is that when it fails, I&#39;m stuck in a tin can in low earth orbit and likely to burn up in the atmosphere.  <br><br>Recovering from a fall off my tri-cycle is not nearly as painful.<br>
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:-)  :-)<br>
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