Gentoo Archives: gentoo-amd64

From: Harry Holt <harryholt@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-amd64@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted.
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 21:05:29
Message-Id: AANLkTikjSbPGHKo_DEm=uttrV7BP92ErOp7UEpP3baBx@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-amd64] About to install on a 64 bit system. Advice wanted. by Frank Peters
1 On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Frank Peters <frank.peters@×××××××.net>wrote:
2
3 > On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 04:04:50 +1100
4 > Lie Ryan <lie.1296@×××××.com> wrote:
5 >
6 > >
7 > > What's the advantage of LILO nowadays? I used grub because of two
8 > > reasons: 1) I don't need to re-install the MBR when changing grub's
9 > > .conf file and 2) I can edit configuration at boot time, useful when
10 > > you messed up your grub.conf. Last time I checked (admittedly long
11 > > time ago) LILO cannot do both of these. Granted, I've never used LILO,
12 > > does it boot faster or runs on more platforms or is there any
13 > > particular reason why you used it?
14 > >
15 >
16 > For one thing, it is completely independent of the kernel and some
17 > were expressing concerns about compatibility with 64-bit.
18 >
19 > Lilo is also simpler, but it is not as versatile as grub.
20 >
21 > My point is not that lilo is an advantage, but that it should not
22 > be overlooked by those who may not require a complex set-up.
23 > The trend seems to be to trash everything in favour of grub.
24 >
25 > The legacy boot method is being slowly eliminated and will be
26 > replaced by EFI. For this there is elilo, which I hope to be
27 > using.
28 >
29 > Frank Peters
30 >
31 >
32 Yes, simplicity is why I have continued to stick with lilo (since 1995). It
33 just always has worked. There's nothing more frustrating for me than trying
34 to boot a machine and being presented with a
35
36 grub >
37
38 and having no clue what went wrong or where to go (although, yes, that's
39 because of experience with lilo - and lack of it with grub). I did try to
40 use grub for a time when it became popular, but after my first experience
41 with it trying to recover from a failed boot I gave up.
42
43 The main advantage to me - why I started using it - was that it plays well
44 with the Windows loader. I don't do those kind of dual-boot machines
45 anymore, but it was very convenient being able to recover a Windows boot
46 manager - or install a new one - and all I had to do to get back to my Linux
47 boot was edit the BOOT.INI file.
48
49 ... HH