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From: "Roy Bamford (neddyseagoon)" <neddyseagoon@g.o>
To: gentoo-commits@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/foundation/en/minutes/2011: gentoo-trustees.01-16.log index.xml
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:48:21
Message-Id: 20110116204810.3B80A20054@flycatcher.gentoo.org
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57 18:42 * NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to open the last trustee meeting before the 2011 elections
58 18:42 -!- quantumsummers|a is now known as quantumsummers
59 18:42 <@NeddySeagoon> Roll call - I'm logging
60 18:42 <@quantumsummers> present
61 18:42 < tsunam> I'm ere
62 18:42 < tsunam> here even
63 18:42 <@robbat2> present
64 18:42 <@dabbott> here
65 18:42 <@NeddySeagoon> Agenda Item 2 Old Business
66 18:43 <@NeddySeagoon> 2011 Trustee Election Status Report
67 18:44 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, and robbat2 retire by rotation. Nominations will be help in Feb, exact dates to be determined by the elections project, voting will be in March
68 18:44 <@NeddySeagoon> Today is the recording date
69 18:45 <@NeddySeagoon> tsunam, you want to say a few words ?
70 18:45 < tsunam> sure thing I'll do that now
71 18:46 < tsunam> As most are aware a few months ago I had some issues with my health. This caused me to step away from my duties for a not insignificant time period
72 18:46 < tsunam> Due to this and luckily by design of how we setup everything the business was able to continue uninterupted.
73 18:47 <@NeddySeagoon> good planning that
74 18:47 < tsunam> However, it also made me consider things in my life including my work for the foundation. What I found is that although I love the work that I've done for the foundation and the members of the foundation I've had the pleasure to work with
75 18:48 < tsunam> that I believe it is time for me to step down during the next election cycle from my position as a trustee and a treasurer, and allow someone who has more motivation and capabilities then I can bring to the positions that people have entrusted to me
76 18:49 <@NeddySeagoon> I would like to propose a vote of thanks to tsunam for his work over the last three years
77 18:49 <@quantumsummers> seconded
78 18:50 <@NeddySeagoon> Vote
79 18:50 <@NeddySeagoon> aye
80 18:50 <@robbat2> aye
81 18:50 <@dabbott> aye
82 18:50 <@quantumsummers> aye. Many Thanks Joshua, many thanks
83 18:50 -!- willikins [~rbot@gentoo/bot/Willikins] has joined #gentoo-trustees
84 18:50 < tsunam> thank you all :) as its about me I need to abstain ;)
85 18:50 <@NeddySeagoon> Thanks for all the hard work tsunam. Make sure we don't owe you money before you leave.
86 18:51 < tsunam> NeddySeagoon: will do
87 18:51 <@NeddySeagoon> Another motion ...
88 18:51 <@NeddySeagoon> I propose that the board endorses the reelection of robbat2 and quantumsummers (if they want to stand)
89 18:52 <@dabbott> seconded
90 18:52 <@NeddySeagoon> Vote
91 18:52 <@NeddySeagoon> aye
92 18:52 < tsunam> aye
93 18:52 <@dabbott> yes
94 18:52 <@quantumsummers> yes
95 18:52 <@robbat2> aye
96 18:53 <@quantumsummers> I do plan to stand again, for the record, and really appreciate the endorsement of the board
97 18:53 <@NeddySeagoon> Carried ... I'll ensure that gets into the notices.
98 18:53 <@robbat2> likewise, I intend to run again, many thanks for the endorsement
99 18:53 <@NeddySeagoon> I'll poke elections too
100 18:54 <@dabbott> thanks to both ++
101 18:54 <@NeddySeagoon> Any more for elections ?
102 18:54 <@quantumsummers> I am prepared to make the voters list
103 18:54 <@quantumsummers> that is all from me
104 18:54 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, SFLC Questions (Software Freedom Law Center)
105 18:56 <@quantumsummers> ok, so just about everything going on right now is waiting on SFLC. Had a long conversation week before last, following up, doing some new stuff, etc,etc
106 18:56 <@NeddySeagoon> dabbott, we shou;ld list the questions on the agenda maybe
107 18:56 <@dabbott> yep
108 18:56 <@NeddySeagoon> Is the SFLC being responsive ?
109 18:56 <@quantumsummers> so, the list: cla, the one I proposed was too permissive in license (bsd-ish), recommends fsf version
110 18:57 <@quantumsummers> ah, NeddySeagoon, well it takes a long time to get things done with them
111 18:57 <@quantumsummers> they are responsive, just I have to keep poking them for things or they appear to forget
112 18:57 <@quantumsummers> or are just really busy
113 18:58 <@NeddySeagoon> We seem to have a fair bit with them ... do we need to set priorities to get things turned around in the order we need or is it just 'lawyers at work' ?
114 18:58 <@quantumsummers> there are priorities they are aware of
115 18:59 <@quantumsummers> anyway, back to the list: tax status: long bit here, summed up in the following. SFLC is appointing some junior attorney to handle working with me directly on this. I think this will make things go faster.
116 18:59 <@NeddySeagoon> Sounds good
117 18:59 <@quantumsummers> further, it appears there has been a change in attitude at the IRS, they are slowing down processing of floss applications
118 19:00 <@NeddySeagoon> Care to estimage when our 503(c) application will go in ?
119 19:00 <@quantumsummers> this might make our petition to them greatly extended
120 19:00 <@quantumsummers> its all in sflc court now, their guy is getting with me to collect all my docs, then they have a fair bit of writing ahead of them
121 19:00 <@NeddySeagoon> We can't influence the IRS bit
122 19:00 <@quantumsummers> not likely
123 19:01 <@NeddySeagoon> It sounds positive, just slow
124 19:01 <@quantumsummers> if its denied, we will have to appeal in federal court (sflc would handle this of course) our attorney is experiencing this with another group now
125 19:01 <@quantumsummers> but yes, I am positive. its just likely going to take awhile
126 19:01 <@NeddySeagoon> heh - good practice
127 19:02 < tsunam> heh
128 19:02 < tsunam> progress is progress...and one should never expect speed when it comes to the government..unless you owe them money :)
129 19:02 <@quantumsummers> now, this is mentioned below, but the libtxc_dxtn bit is also awaiting response
130 19:02 <@NeddySeagoon> tsunam, that must be the same all over the world :)
131 19:03 <@quantumsummers> so, also discussed the transition of tsunam away from the foundation and the record keeping, etc required
132 19:04 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, it sounds like you are on top of things with the SFLC ... is there any more you need to share with us in public ?
133 19:04 < tsunam> I've provided a list of some items previously when I brought it up, but added at least one thing to the list.
134 19:04 <@quantumsummers> I am keeping a repo with a journal and any/all files dealt with in the process
135 19:04 <@quantumsummers> yes, thanks tsunam for the list
136 19:04 <@quantumsummers> very helpful. ducks will line up
137 19:05 <@quantumsummers> is there anything else I need to report on?
138 19:05 <@NeddySeagoon> Sounds good. quantumsummers who else has access? I'm aware you are a single point of failure during the transition
139 19:06 <@quantumsummers> yes, this is a personal repo at the moment. I would push to git.o.g.o if others want access
140 19:06 <@quantumsummers> it would have to be a private repo, of course
141 19:06 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, long term, you cannot be both sec and treasurer
142 19:06 <@robbat2> there should be proper private repos on git.g.o sometime in the next few weeks
143 19:06 <@quantumsummers> robbat2: noted, thanks.
144 19:06 <@NeddySeagoon> its too much work for one
145 19:06 <@quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: I know, we need a new treas
146 19:07 <@NeddySeagoon> yep
147 19:07 <@quantumsummers> I think its small enough now that I can easily manage for now
148 19:07 < tsunam> we do have some people who offered to help that were financial types that quantumsummers and I were interacting with that would be perfect for the position of treasurer
149 19:07 <@NeddySeagoon> That has to be on the agenda for April, when we have the AGM
150 19:07 <@quantumsummers> yes, I have one particular candidate that has offered to do bookkeeping
151 19:08 <@NeddySeagoon> tsunam, that works for me.
152 19:08 <@quantumsummers> I am waiting on sflc to get me the proper docs for this person to sign regarding non-disclosure, privacy, etc
153 19:08 <@NeddySeagoon> treasurer is an officer so it need not be a board member
154 19:09 <@quantumsummers> once we have the legal in place I would like to "test drive" this candidate (and others if needed)
155 19:09 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, is this individual interested in becoming a gentoo staffer ?
156 19:09 <@quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: correct. It would be nice to have some one we know/trust as there will be signatures involved, etc
157 19:10 <@NeddySeagoon> these individuals*
158 19:10 <@quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: I would think so, though I have not discussed this specifically
159 19:10 <@NeddySeagoon> they need to do the staff quiz
160 19:10 <@quantumsummers> I guess it would be a requirement
161 19:10 <@NeddySeagoon> Not specifically - but it shows a little comittment
162 19:11 <@NeddySeagoon> any more SFLC stuff?
163 19:11 <@quantumsummers> nope.
164 19:11 <@NeddySeagoon> Agenda Item 4 Bugs
165 19:11 <@quantumsummers> one unrelated bit, I have sent reimbursement checks to the GSOC mentors
166 19:12 <@NeddySeagoon> fine
167 19:12 <@robbat2> NeddySeagoon, err, you missed me
168 19:12 <@robbat2> re UltraDNS followup
169 19:12 <@NeddySeagoon> hehe - sorry robbat2 UltraDNS Wrapup
170 19:12 <@NeddySeagoon> It seems to all be still working ...
171 19:13 <@robbat2> ok, we successfully did the final BIND migration on Dec 27th
172 19:13 <@robbat2> there's one more technical backend bit waiting for the private git repos, but we're operational already
173 19:13 <@robbat2> in terms of paperwork
174 19:13 <@robbat2> we were concerned about being billed for the last month due to when we gave notice
175 19:14 <@robbat2> there wasn't any problems there at all. Our "official cancel date" for to make the Neustar paperwork easier on their end is 2011/01/31.
176 19:14 <@NeddySeagoon> That sounds good
177 19:14 <@robbat2> my contact at Neustar wishes us all the best in future
178 19:15 <@robbat2> that's everything :-)
179 19:16 * NeddySeagoon proposes a vote of thanks to gentoo-infra for the seamless migration of our DNS
180 19:16 <@quantumsummers> seconded
181 19:16 <@NeddySeagoon> Vote
182 19:16 < tsunam> aye
183 19:16 <@NeddySeagoon> aye
184 19:16 <@quantumsummers> aye
185 19:16 <@dabbott> yes hire them
186 19:16 <@robbat2> abstain since it's about infra/me
187 19:16 <@NeddySeagoon> Carried.
188 19:17 <@NeddySeagoon> I'll write to infra@
189 19:17 <@NeddySeagoon> Agenda Item 4 Bugs Corrections to corporation filing Bug 296766
190 19:17 < willikins> NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/296766 "Corrections to corporation filing needed as of 2009/12/13"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; ASSI; robbat2@g.o:trustees@g.o
191 19:18 <@NeddySeagoon> If this isn't already in the post, we may as well wait until the election results are known
192 19:18 < tsunam> I've not sent an update
193 19:18 <@quantumsummers> some of this this went in with our annual report
194 19:19 <@dabbott> we should just wait
195 19:19 <@quantumsummers> I can handle this once the election is done
196 19:19 <@quantumsummers> its a simple form
197 19:19 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, ok - thanks
198 19:19 <@dabbott> also can we help with bug 351045
199 19:19 < willikins> dabbott: https://bugs.gentoo.org/351045 "www site needs a privacy policy"; Website www.gentoo.org, Social Contract; NEW; robbat2@g.o:infra-bugs@g.o
200 19:19 <@quantumsummers> that is alsoi in the hands of sflc
201 19:20 <@dabbott> ok good enough
202 19:20 <@quantumsummers> I wrote them about this and mentioned the fedora example
203 19:20 <@robbat2> should we get a draft together for them first?
204 19:20 <@quantumsummers> I have a few issues with the fedora version
205 19:20 <@quantumsummers> actually, sure. I started working on a draft last week :)
206 19:20 <@robbat2> quantumsummers, can you list those issues in the bug?
207 19:20 <@quantumsummers> yes I cah
208 19:20 <@quantumsummers> can
209 19:21 <@quantumsummers> robbat2: it would be helpful to know what we do store for example in ldap, versus forums, etc
210 19:21 <@quantumsummers> we can switch out our stuff for the fedora stuff
211 19:22 <@robbat2> ok I can answer that on the bug for better tracking
212 19:22 <@quantumsummers> then I think it comes down to tightening the third party data sharing language
213 19:22 <@quantumsummers> ok, great
214 19:23 <@NeddySeagoon> Any more bugs ?
215 19:23 <@quantumsummers> there are a few
216 19:23 <@quantumsummers> bug 285549
217 19:23 < willikins> quantumsummers: https://bugs.gentoo.org/285549 "Add #gentoo-ir (Iran) to IRC channels list"; Website www.gentoo.org, Other; ASSI; belendax@×××××.com:trustees@g.o
218 19:23 <@NeddySeagoon> do we need to discuss them here
219 19:23 <@quantumsummers> also with SFLC
220 19:23 <@quantumsummers> oh, up to you chairman
221 19:24 <@quantumsummers> Perhaps I just have way too many things on hte sflc plate at the moment, there are like 15 items
222 19:24 <@NeddySeagoon> No point in going through bugs that have not changed
223 19:24 <@quantumsummers> heh, we can move on & use bugz for this stuff
224 19:25 <@NeddySeagoon> Agenda Item 5 New Business
225 19:25 <@NeddySeagoon> Adding patent-unsafe package (libtxc_dxtn)
226 19:25 <@quantumsummers> also with sflc now
227 19:25 <@NeddySeagoon> ok
228 19:25 <@quantumsummers> err, as oif a wekk or so ago
229 19:25 <@quantumsummers> robbat2: is there any precedent for this in the portage tree?
230 19:26 <@quantumsummers> seems truetype-ish
231 19:26 <@robbat2> hmm
232 19:26 <@NeddySeagoon> Agenda Item 6 Membership Applications
233 19:27 <@NeddySeagoon> leave it with sflc
234 19:27 <@NeddySeagoon> Gentoo Developers Andreas H?ttel and Bernard Cafarelli
235 19:27 <@NeddySeagoon> I vote aye for both
236 19:27 <@dabbott> yes to both
237 19:27 < tsunam> yes on both
238 19:27 <@quantumsummers> aye for both
239 19:28 <@NeddySeagoon> robbat2, ?
240 19:28 <@robbat2> aye
241 19:28 <@NeddySeagoon> Carried
242 19:28 <@NeddySeagoon> Community Members Mike Gilbert
243 19:28 <@NeddySeagoon> I vote aye
244 19:28 <@robbat2> aye
245 19:29 <@quantumsummers> aye
246 19:29 <@dabbott> yes
247 19:29 < tsunam> abstain as i didn't review
248 19:29 < tsunam> what he has done etc
249 19:29 <@NeddySeagoon> Carried
250 19:29 <@quantumsummers> herd tester
251 19:29 < tsunam> ah
252 19:29 <@quantumsummers> for chromium I believe
253 19:29 <@dabbott> he also bug wrangles
254 19:29 < tsunam> *nods*
255 19:29 <@NeddySeagoon> Agenda Item 7 Advertising Requests - none
256 19:29 < tsunam> good to know
257 19:30 <@NeddySeagoon> Agenda Item 8 Date of Next Meeting - 20th Feb 2011 19:00 UTC
258 19:30 <@quantumsummers> +1
259 19:30 <@dabbott> good here
260 19:30 <@NeddySeagoon> +1
261 19:30 <@robbat2> +1
262 19:30 <@NeddySeagoon> tsunam ?
263 19:30 <@dabbott> NeddySeagoon: put the log here please foundation/en/minutes/2011
264 19:31 < tsunam> that's fine
265 19:31 <@NeddySeagoon> dabbott, ok.
266 19:31 <@NeddySeagoon> Agenda Item 9 Any other business ...
267 19:31 <@NeddySeagoon> I have some ...
268 19:31 <@robbat2> none from me at this time
269 19:32 <@dabbott> I will do the motions and quantumsummers when you get the repo set up I can help keep track of the items for sflc if you want
270 19:32 <@NeddySeagoon> jmbsvicetto, volunteered me to speak a FOSDEM on a joint Foundation/Council/Devrel platform, about the future organisation of gentoo
271 19:32 <@quantumsummers> dabbott: ok thank
272 19:33 <@NeddySeagoon> I' mailed trustees@ for feedback and I had two replies.
273 19:33 <@quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: I gave some feedback in this channel, shall I email it for the record?
274 19:33 <@NeddySeagoon> Do I have to speak as an individual, or can I speak on behalf of the Foundation
275 19:33 < tsunam> I'm fine with you speaking on behalf of the foundation
276 19:34 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, no need, I have the log
277 19:34 <@quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: on behalf of the foundation would be nice, I think we should all participate in the draft though
278 19:34 <@robbat2> i trust Neddy, i'd like to read what he says, but I don't need to see a draft
279 19:34 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, I will try to get the draft slides out before the end of next weekend
280 19:35 <@quantumsummers> sounds excellent
281 19:35 <@NeddySeagoon> I'll try to record it - voice only. I've got a new toy to take to fosdem :)
282 19:35 <@dabbott> NeddySeagoon: sounds interesting, I am not knowledgable enough on the subject to offer much feedback
283 19:35 <@quantumsummers> nice :)
284 19:36 <@NeddySeagoon> Ok, we can clear up the odds and ends on the alias.
285 19:37 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, if you update the members list with the new members today, I'll check it over.
286 19:37 <@quantumsummers> I can email that out asap
287 19:37 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, I have to update the +V list here too
288 19:38 <@quantumsummers> gotcha
289 19:38 <@NeddySeagoon> Any more 'other business' ?
290 19:38 <@quantumsummers> well ...
291 19:38 <@quantumsummers> j/k none from me
292 19:38 <@NeddySeagoon> heh
293 19:38 * NeddySeagoon will will post the log
294 19:39 <@NeddySeagoon> Who will update the motions page?
295 19:39 * dabbott motions
296 19:39 <@quantumsummers> thanks dabbott
297 19:39 <@NeddySeagoon> It looks like I volunteered for the emails already
298 19:39 <@NeddySeagoon> Agenda Item 11 Open Floor
299 19:40 <@dabbott> np looks like 4 i will recheck the log
300 19:41 * NeddySeagoon bands the gavel to close the meeting
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