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(04/11/2009 02:00:37 PM) ***NeddySeagoon bangs his gavel to start the foundation AGM |
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(04/11/2009 02:01:02 PM) ***jmbsvicetto takes a back row seat |
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(04/11/2009 02:01:16 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda Item 1 Introduction of New Trustees |
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(04/11/2009 02:01:29 PM) NeddySeagoon: I would like to introduce quantumsummers and robbat2 as our two new |
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(04/11/2009 02:01:29 PM) NeddySeagoon: trustees and take this opportunity to thank dmwaters for repreasing her |
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(04/11/2009 02:01:29 PM) NeddySeagoon: trustees role. |
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(04/11/2009 02:02:10 PM) NeddySeagoon: I would also like to thank the other candiates for standing in this election |
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(04/11/2009 02:02:31 PM) armin76: tsunam: had, not anymore |
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(04/11/2009 02:02:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: At this time, I would like to porpose a vote of thanks to dmwaters_ ... |
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(04/11/2009 02:03:07 PM) tsunam: seconded |
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(04/11/2009 02:03:15 PM) NeddySeagoon: Vote please |
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(04/11/2009 02:03:18 PM) robbat2|na: aye |
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(04/11/2009 02:03:18 PM) fmccor: Yes. |
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(04/11/2009 02:03:18 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: aye |
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(04/11/2009 02:03:20 PM) tsunam: aye |
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(04/11/2009 02:03:23 PM) NeddySeagoon: aye |
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(04/11/2009 02:03:24 PM) robbat2|na is now known as robbat2 |
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(04/11/2009 02:03:28 PM) NeddySeagoon: carried |
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(04/11/2009 02:03:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, would you care to say a few words ? |
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(04/11/2009 02:04:00 PM) robbat2: certainly |
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(04/11/2009 02:04:18 PM) robbat2: firstly, thanks to the electorate for their confidence in me. |
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(04/11/2009 02:04:29 PM) robbat2: i hope I can live up to it with my plans |
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(04/11/2009 02:04:44 PM) robbat2: which will be commencing in may after I return from my travels |
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(04/11/2009 02:05:01 PM) robbat2: thats all for now |
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(04/11/2009 02:05:36 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, you are no stranger to this channel care to say a few words about your extra workload ? |
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(04/11/2009 02:06:02 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: It would be a pleasure, thank you. |
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(04/11/2009 02:06:13 PM) NeddySeagoon: Not too many :) |
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(04/11/2009 02:06:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I simply wish to extend my gratitude to the Board for the privilege of serving as Secretary these past few months |
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(04/11/2009 02:06:56 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: And |
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(04/11/2009 02:07:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I wish to offer my thanks to the electorate for giving me the great honor of serving as a board member |
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(04/11/2009 02:08:14 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: My hope is to grow gentoo and make it stronger than ever. |
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(04/11/2009 02:08:38 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Please, wish the trustees luck in this endeavor. |
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(04/11/2009 02:08:49 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Thanks. |
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(04/11/2009 02:09:05 PM) NeddySeagoon: Thank you robbat2 and quantumsummers |
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(04/11/2009 02:09:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda Item 3 Officers Reports |
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(04/11/2009 02:09:48 PM) NeddySeagoon: First the Presidents' Report http://xrl.us/ben64s |
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(04/11/2009 02:10:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: We will have a few minutes for reading and I will take questions as they arise |
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(04/11/2009 02:12:26 PM) NeddySeagoon: Any questions ? |
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(04/11/2009 02:12:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: I propose the report is accepted as written |
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(04/11/2009 02:12:56 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Very nice report NeddySeagoon, no questions from me, thank you. |
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(04/11/2009 02:13:07 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I second |
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(04/11/2009 02:13:16 PM) NeddySeagoon: Thank you. |
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(04/11/2009 02:13:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: Vote please |
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(04/11/2009 02:13:21 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Votes? |
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(04/11/2009 02:13:23 PM) robbat2: aye, no questions here |
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(04/11/2009 02:13:23 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: aye |
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(04/11/2009 02:13:27 PM) tsunam: aye |
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(04/11/2009 02:14:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: thank you |
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(04/11/2009 02:14:29 PM) jmbsvicetto: NeddySeagoon: very good report |
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(04/11/2009 02:14:44 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, Secretarys' Report ... care to paste a link please |
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(04/11/2009 02:14:48 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: http://dev.gentoo.org/~quantumsummers/secretarys_report_2009.html |
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(04/11/2009 02:14:51 PM) NeddySeagoon: jmbsvicetto, thank you |
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(04/11/2009 02:15:10 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Questions and/or comments are welcome. |
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(04/11/2009 02:15:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: Same format ... reading time, questions and vote |
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(04/11/2009 02:15:52 PM) robbat2: quantumsummers, approximately how many (former) members were dropped due to being unable to reach them using the last emails on file? |
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(04/11/2009 02:16:50 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair looks |
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(04/11/2009 02:18:39 PM) jmbsvicetto: quantumsummers: From the 75 non-devs, 73 are ex-dev, correct? |
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(04/11/2009 02:18:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: there were 2 resignations, Four were dropped. |
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(04/11/2009 02:19:09 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, nobody was dropped from membership this election. members have to skip two consecutive elections to be dropped |
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(04/11/2009 02:19:43 PM) jmbsvicetto: NeddySeagoon: That is not part of the adopted bylaws |
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(04/11/2009 02:19:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: jmbsvicetto: as of the recording date for the election yes. However, since that date we now have 5 non-dev members |
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(04/11/2009 02:20:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, I expect that we will lose a lot of 'dead wood' after the next election. |
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(04/11/2009 02:20:05 PM) robbat2: to clarify, I mean dropped in the sense of we have no way to contact them |
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(04/11/2009 02:20:19 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: that is what I meant, 4 |
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(04/11/2009 02:20:23 PM) jmbsvicetto: NeddySeagoon: The trustees may decided to terminate membership for lack of participation, but that particular rule was dropped from the approved bylaws |
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(04/11/2009 02:20:40 PM) jmbsvicetto: quantumsummers: That's good to hear :) |
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(04/11/2009 02:20:46 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: they were due to bounces with no other email on file |
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(04/11/2009 02:20:54 PM) NeddySeagoon: jmbsvicetto, the bylaws state 'as determied from time to time' and recently, thats what was determined. Its in the meeting logs this year |
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(04/11/2009 02:21:10 PM) robbat2: thanks. I just found that interesting to compare against the historical totals of devs (685) and the current number of devs (243) |
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(04/11/2009 02:21:35 PM) robbat2: no further questions from me |
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(04/11/2009 02:21:48 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: I think that is interesting as well, perhaps we should collab on this a bit to gather some stats |
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(04/11/2009 02:21:49 PM) jmbsvicetto: NeddySeagoon: oh, the election officials were looking for that but missed it. We'll add a note about it to our procedureus |
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(04/11/2009 02:22:28 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, do you want to add the Q&A to your report or should I propose it as clarified here ? |
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(04/11/2009 02:22:43 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: jmbsvicetto: its a standard operating procedure. These will be published when the nfp-web-app is available. |
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(04/11/2009 02:22:47 PM) jmbsvicetto: robbat2: I think between 2006 and 2008 no dev joined the Foundation - that means some people from 2005 onwards, never joined the foundation |
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(04/11/2009 02:22:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: jmbsvicetto, I'll find it for you after the meeting |
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(04/11/2009 02:23:07 PM) robbat2: jmbsvicetto, we'll review later, thanks |
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(04/11/2009 02:23:08 PM) jmbsvicetto: thanks |
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(04/11/2009 02:23:17 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, do you want to add the Q&A to your report or should I propose it as clarified here ? |
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(04/11/2009 02:23:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: I have no preference, I can add that in no problem |
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(04/11/2009 02:23:42 PM) tsunam: I would suggest ammending it to the report |
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(04/11/2009 02:23:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: very well, I will amend the report |
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(04/11/2009 02:24:05 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, OK, add it to the report please |
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(04/11/2009 02:24:36 PM) NeddySeagoon: I propose that the secrataries report is approved with the changes discussed above |
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(04/11/2009 02:24:42 PM) fmccor: second |
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(04/11/2009 02:24:48 PM) NeddySeagoon: Vote |
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(04/11/2009 02:24:51 PM) tsunam: aye |
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(04/11/2009 02:24:54 PM) robbat2: aye |
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(04/11/2009 02:24:54 PM) fmccor: aye |
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(04/11/2009 02:24:56 PM) NeddySeagoon: aye |
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(04/11/2009 02:24:56 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair abstains |
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(04/11/2009 02:25:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: Carried |
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(04/11/2009 02:25:18 PM) NeddySeagoon: The follow up will be at next months meeting |
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(04/11/2009 02:25:49 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I will have the changes made before the end of this meeting |
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(04/11/2009 02:26:01 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, The treasurers report please |
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(04/11/2009 02:26:03 PM) tsunam: http://dev.gentoo.org/~tsunam/Treasures_report.html |
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(04/11/2009 02:26:32 PM) tsunam: Note: this covers the first 3 quarters of the fiscal year as our fiscal year is not over yet |
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(04/11/2009 02:27:18 PM) robbat2: no questions from me |
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(04/11/2009 02:27:55 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: tsunam: Do you have an estimate regarding the funds outstanding, i.e. checks that Grant has? |
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(04/11/2009 02:28:32 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers: Outside of the netbank account. it is approximately 2k USD from cafepress for the store |
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(04/11/2009 02:28:50 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: tsunam: what is the amount on the Netbank? |
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(04/11/2009 02:29:18 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: also, we need the GSoC $$ from last year, now that we have a bank. :)\ |
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(04/11/2009 02:29:22 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers: I would have to review the transfers from paypal to come up with an exact value, and even then I'm not entirely positive that is accurate |
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(04/11/2009 02:29:28 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers: correct |
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(04/11/2009 02:29:58 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Perhaps also note that we do not need to file taxes this year due to making <$25K |
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(04/11/2009 02:30:02 PM) tsunam: I would prefer to contact ING and discuss it with them to find the actual proper ammount without guessing |
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(04/11/2009 02:30:10 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: tsunam: understood |
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(04/11/2009 02:30:25 PM) robbat2: when I was reviewing the financial reports previously, i'd estimate it at exceeding $10k. |
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(04/11/2009 02:30:34 PM) tsunam: robbat2: I would concur |
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(04/11/2009 02:30:34 PM) robbat2: by how much, i am uncertain |
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(04/11/2009 02:30:46 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I would estimate >$20K |
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(04/11/2009 02:31:16 PM) NeddySeagoon: lets not guess in public. tsunam can you ask grant for the value on the face of the cheque ? |
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(04/11/2009 02:31:26 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers: I don't believe it is that much, but once I contact ING and find out what we have to do to retrieve that money I will provide a report about the value |
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(04/11/2009 02:31:49 PM) tsunam: NeddySeagoon: I will contact grant again concerning the checks again |
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(04/11/2009 02:31:54 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: tsunam: indeed, thanks |
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(04/11/2009 02:32:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, ok ... care to give a date for contacting ING ? |
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(04/11/2009 02:32:20 PM) tsunam: I hope to be able to begin talks this month |
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(04/11/2009 02:32:37 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok ... a topic for next months meeting then |
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(04/11/2009 02:32:44 PM) tsunam: with the actual Capital one bank, it should prove easier to cordinate with ING for that |
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(04/11/2009 02:32:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: yep |
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(04/11/2009 02:33:24 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, as we seem to be updating reports, will you take the Q&A into your report pleasse |
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(04/11/2009 02:33:33 PM) tsunam: will do |
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(04/11/2009 02:34:14 PM) NeddySeagoon: Thin I propose the treaurers report is accepted after the amendments discussed above |
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(04/11/2009 02:34:19 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: seconded |
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(04/11/2009 02:34:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: then* |
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(04/11/2009 02:34:23 PM) robbat2: aye |
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(04/11/2009 02:34:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: Vote |
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(04/11/2009 02:34:26 PM) fmccor: aye |
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(04/11/2009 02:34:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: aye |
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(04/11/2009 02:34:28 PM) NeddySeagoon: aye |
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(04/11/2009 02:34:30 PM) tsunam: abstain |
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(04/11/2009 02:34:35 PM) NeddySeagoon: Carried |
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(04/11/2009 02:34:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: 4 Membership Applications ... we have none to consuder |
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(04/11/2009 02:35:13 PM) NeddySeagoon: 5 Any other business ... |
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(04/11/2009 02:35:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, ? |
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(04/11/2009 02:35:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, ? |
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(04/11/2009 02:35:56 PM) robbat2: nothing i'm ready to raise. it's on hold with me until I'm done with my travels this month (away april 17-29) |
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(04/11/2009 02:36:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, you could post it to trustees@ to give us a heads up |
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(04/11/2009 02:36:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, ? |
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(04/11/2009 02:36:35 PM) fmccor: I should mention two items which are ongoing. |
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(04/11/2009 02:37:06 PM) robbat2: NeddySeagoon, i'll do so |
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(04/11/2009 02:37:20 PM) fmccor: First, we have an application from a group in Kazakhstan for them to be our sales outlet there. |
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(04/11/2009 02:37:55 PM) fmccor: In principle, this is fine, and we are just waiting for a Russian speaker to review their site (at the advice of our lawyer). |
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(04/11/2009 02:38:15 PM) fmccor: I believe this is underway, but I'll follow up this week. |
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(04/11/2009 02:39:30 PM) fmccor: Second, Gentoo e.V. still holds our trademark in the EU. I have not heard what they want to do, but I think after reading what everyone has said and thinking about it, that is probably better for us than the alternative (taking it over). |
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(04/11/2009 02:39:53 PM) fmccor: That all depends on Gentoo e.V., of course. |
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(04/11/2009 02:40:07 PM) NeddySeagoon: Their meeting is overdue |
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(04/11/2009 02:40:12 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: dertobi123: any comments on the above? |
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(04/11/2009 02:40:21 PM) fmccor: Yes, but it is out of our control. |
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(04/11/2009 02:40:36 PM) dertobi123: quantumsummers: not really, besides we're still slacking on that |
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(04/11/2009 02:40:36 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, I understand |
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(04/11/2009 02:41:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: dertobi123: is there any consensus from anyone regarding the future of Gentoo e.V.? |
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(04/11/2009 02:41:40 PM) dertobi123: quantumsummers: somewhat yes, somewhat no |
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(04/11/2009 02:42:06 PM) dertobi123: somehow people want to keep the Gentoo e.V., but when it comes to actively working on that ... |
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(04/11/2009 02:42:19 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: dertobi123: perhaps the trustees here can assist in some way, would you & your comrades be amenable to a discussion? |
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(04/11/2009 02:43:11 PM) dertobi123: i am, i can try to get others for that discussion, too |
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(04/11/2009 02:43:38 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: dertobi123: I think that could be very productive |
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(04/11/2009 02:44:19 PM) dertobi123: agreed |
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(04/11/2009 02:44:24 PM) NeddySeagoon: dertobi123, would you care to propose a date/time/venue for a joint meeting ? |
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(04/11/2009 02:44:48 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: it seems good to maintain Gentoo e.V., but perhaps fold the work of maintenance into the existing Gentoo Foundation. |
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(04/11/2009 02:45:02 PM) fmccor: ? |
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(04/11/2009 02:45:07 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, thats what the meeting needs to decide |
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(04/11/2009 02:45:13 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes |
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(04/11/2009 02:45:29 PM) dertobi123: NeddySeagoon: i can mail our members, suggest some dates on weekends in may and we can agree on a date which works for both of us best then |
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(04/11/2009 02:45:47 PM) dertobi123: quantumsummers: in my personal opinion i have to agree on that |
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(04/11/2009 02:45:54 PM) NeddySeagoon: dertobi123, sounds like a plan. |
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(04/11/2009 02:45:56 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: this might be a good time to use that scheduling tool |
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(04/11/2009 02:46:09 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: care to set up a link? |
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(04/11/2009 02:46:10 PM) dertobi123: hrm |
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(04/11/2009 02:46:13 PM) dertobi123: yeah |
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(04/11/2009 02:46:22 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, AoB from you ? |
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(04/11/2009 02:46:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: what is AoB? |
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(04/11/2009 02:46:47 PM) NeddySeagoon: Any Other Business |
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(04/11/2009 02:47:03 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: oh, heh. |
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(04/11/2009 02:47:16 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Not that I can think of atm. |
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(04/11/2009 02:47:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: I have one item. |
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(04/11/2009 02:47:42 PM) robbat2: quantumsummers, http://www.scheduleonce.com/Timezone-tool.aspx <--- go and start there, best if the person organizing does it. so that they get the right link to see it |
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(04/11/2009 02:48:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: Date of next meeting. I propose 17 May at 19:00 UTC, being the Sunday after the council meeting |
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(04/11/2009 02:48:43 PM) fmccor: Should work for me. |
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(04/11/2009 02:48:51 PM) NeddySeagoon: Oh, I will propose a meetings calander on trustess@ too |
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(04/11/2009 02:49:13 PM) tsunam: I will be traveling in may/june possibly (no dates yet) for work. Original date would be during the week of the 17th but that is not looking likely |
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(04/11/2009 02:49:19 PM) tsunam: so that should work for me |
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(04/11/2009 02:49:24 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, robbat2 quantumsummers ^^ |
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(04/11/2009 02:49:32 PM) robbat2: may 17th is fine for me |
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(04/11/2009 02:49:38 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: yes, that is good |
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(04/11/2009 02:49:47 PM) tsunam: I'll keep everyone advised if that date shouldn't work for me |
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(04/11/2009 02:49:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agreed than. |
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(04/11/2009 02:50:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda Item 6 Open floor |
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(04/11/2009 02:50:23 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: dertobi123: will you CC trustees@g.o on the email you send please |
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(04/11/2009 02:51:23 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, I would rather see a translation ... my German is zero |
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(04/11/2009 02:51:36 PM) tanderson: During the election my irc nick was expected for my vote(tanderson). That's not my gentoo account though. Could someone fix that on the trustees list? |
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(04/11/2009 02:52:22 PM) dertobi123: NeddySeagoon: might make some more sense, yeah |
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(04/11/2009 02:52:26 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: same, perhaps we can tap someone from the German conspiracy to assist with translation |
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(04/11/2009 02:52:33 PM) tsunam: hehe, I'll be fine. I can read german |
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(04/11/2009 02:52:37 PM) tsunam: fairly well |
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(04/11/2009 02:52:42 PM) ***fmccor can read German |
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(04/11/2009 02:52:49 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, you mean like dertobi123 :) |
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(04/11/2009 02:53:00 PM) dertobi123: seids ihr da sicher, jungs? |
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(04/11/2009 02:53:01 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yepper do |
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(04/11/2009 02:53:21 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: achtung baby? |
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(04/11/2009 02:53:21 PM) fmccor: Ja, so bin ich. |
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(04/11/2009 02:53:28 PM) tsunam: hehe |
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(04/11/2009 02:53:35 PM) dertobi123: fmccor: -so ;) |
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(04/11/2009 02:53:36 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: jawol |
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(04/11/2009 02:53:37 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers: he asked if you were sure |
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(04/11/2009 02:53:44 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ja |
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(04/11/2009 02:53:48 PM) dertobi123: heh |
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(04/11/2009 02:54:02 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: all my german I learned from the game enemy territory |
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(04/11/2009 02:54:28 PM) tsunam: note: don't have quantumsummers be a translator for german, unless we want to go to war |
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(04/11/2009 02:54:28 PM) dertobi123: only thing i remember from enemy territory is "need a medic" |
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(04/11/2009 02:54:35 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, well, mine is from reading wine bottles |
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(04/11/2009 02:54:44 PM) tsunam: think it might be time to call the meeting to an end though |
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(04/11/2009 02:54:46 PM) robbat2: besser als mein Deutsch |
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(04/11/2009 02:54:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agreed. |
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(04/11/2009 02:54:57 PM) tanderson: During the election my irc nick was expected for my vote(tanderson). That's not my gentoo account though. Could someone fix that on the trustees list? |
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(04/11/2009 02:55:03 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: dertobi123: lol, that is all my wife thinks about when I play fps ... need a medic over & over again |
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(04/11/2009 02:55:03 PM) ***NeddySeagoon declares the meeting closed |