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On 2009.07.15 00:33, Ferris McCormick wrote: |
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> On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:06:52 -0600 |
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> Denis Dupeyron <calchan@g.o> wrote: |
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> > Next topic on the (long) list: how do we go about amending GLEP39? |
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> > This is by the way a blocker for part of the previous discussion |
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> > about meeting format, i.e. getting rid of proxies and slacker mark. |
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[snip] |
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> I think it is clear that we can change or replace GLEP39. The |
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> question is who can do it and how. |
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[snip] |
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> > ... Some others think that the whole point of |
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> > electing a council is about delegating your vote and making the |
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> > maneuvering of this large ship that Gentoo is a lot easier than if |
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> > had to resort to all-devs vote for everything. |
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[snip] |
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> Council as we know it was created by GLEP39, and GLEP39 is the one of |
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> several alternatives which was chosen by a vote of the developer |
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> community. So in a sense, Council is serving at the pleasure of the |
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> developers, and GLEP39 describes the rules the developers want for |
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> the council (or wanted in 2005 at any rate). |
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> So it is conceivable that if council were to replace GLEP39, they |
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> would be working against the explicit wishes of the community. |
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So what ? |
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Gentoo is not a real democracy. The elected council have just had their |
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mandate created - they have not even met once yet. |
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Let them use it. |
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Most developers won't care. Look at the turnout for the council |
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election. |
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Developers that do care can lobby the council prior to any vote then |
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council can vote taking into account any lobbying. |
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Lets not pretend that we can keep everyone happy - we are all wise |
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enough to know thats not true, so lets not even try and lets not put |
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any more effort into fixing the slackers and proxies parts of GLEP 39 |
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than we really need to. |
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The difference is between the mathematical precision of a referendum |
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and being close enough for all practical purposes. The council were |
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elected to look after the engineering side of Gentoo so being close |
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enough for all practical purposes is exactly what is required. |
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> Regards, |
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> Ferris |
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> Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) <fmccor@g.o> |
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> Developer, Gentoo Linux (Sparc, Userrel, Trustees) |
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Regards, |
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Roy Bamford |
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(NeddySeagoon) a member of |
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gentoo-ops |
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forum-mods |
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treecleaners |
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trustees |
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