Gentoo Archives: gentoo-council

From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@g.o>
To: gentoo-council@l.g.o
Cc: Markus Ullmann <jokey@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-council] Retirement of slacking peeps
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:42:08
Message-Id: 200801150641.58670.vapier@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-council] Retirement of slacking peeps by Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 15 January 2008, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 January 2008, Markus Ullmann wrote: > > our retirement folks brought up a discussion about retiring people that > > do a small amount of commits (1-2 mostly) right before the 60 day period > > ends so they stay active yet are effectively slacking. > > > > I gave a starting idea to change the minimum amount to something like > > $count of fixed bugs per month for ebuild developers. As we have enough > > bugs that are trivial to fix this shouldn't be a real problem at the > > moment (considering we have ~6.5k bugs open excluding maintainer-wanted). > > the metric for retirement lies with devrel and whatever sub projects > they've partitioned/created for these topics. the larger developer base is > free to make their opinions known to devrel on the various matters and if > they feel things are not moving in the right direction, we can review the > matter. but i would say this is hardly close to the point for us to review > > > Reason that brought it to attention is the retirement bug for the > > current QA lead spb. (https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64840) > > > > To resolve the current situation there I gave the advice to just hold > > project lead votings that every project has to do every 12 months. > > i think the rules are in place to help keep things moving smoothly. in > other words, they are guidelines which are not absolute, especially in an > open source project such as ours. > > in this particular case, i would consider these facts to be self evident > (and painfully so): > - the current QA lead has effectively done nothing for the entire run of > holding the position > - the current QA lead is pretty inactive in many (most?) Gentoo things > - the previous QA lead was very active in constantly improving Gentoo life > - the previous QA lead would like to resume improving Gentoo life > > taking these facts into consideration, the logical move would be for the > current QA lead to step down and allow the previous QA lead to step up. > Mark has more than proved his constant drive for quality. Stephen on the > other hand has done nothing of the sort.
along these lines, if the situation does not resolve itself, i would ask for us to vote on the matter come our next council meeting. i believe without a doubt that Mark in anything but the QA lead role would be a huge disservice to the entire project. -mike

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