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From: Ned Ludd <solar@g.o>
To: Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@g.o>
Cc: Ferris McCormick <fmccor@g.o>, gentoo-council@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-council] CoC: informal enforcement
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:39:22
Message-Id: 1203017959.4132.0.camel@hangover
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-council] CoC: informal enforcement by Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 09:31 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 12:36 Thu 14 Feb , Ferris McCormick wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 02:13 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > What I want to do is build a core culture of people who refuse to > > > tolerate assholes. We can do this by getting together a small group > > > who will reply to any gentoo-dev posts or #gentoo-dev comments by > > > people who are being jerks, telling them that they're being a jerk > > > and not replying to the substance of the jerk's post at all. Replies > > > to the substance of a post would come separately or not at all. > > > Having a group of people reply to hostile posters should begin > > > rebuilding a culture that doesn't tolerate that type of action. > > > > > > People who are consistently jerks are incompetent developers and > > > should be treated as such. > > > > Nice idea and worth a try. I have one concern. Since we are talking > > CoC here, I'd like to emphasise that "assholeness" should be > > determined within the guidelines of the CoC. Not by some person's own > > conception of "assholeness" --- I'd hate to see a flame war about just > > who is being the asshole in any particular instance. > > You make a good point. The CoC [1] is subject to some level of > interpretation, and I think that these two provisions pretty much > provide for what I'm suggesting: > > Be courteous. Though respect is earned, it must start somewhere. > Respect someones right for their own opinion and acknowledge that they > do deserve a measure of politeness in your response. > > Respectfully disagree with or challenge other members. The operative > word here is respectfully. > > One thought I've had is that once we get this small group of people, we > could talk in an IRC channel about whether a particular instance > qualifies before responding. > > Thanks, > Donnie > > 1. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/coc.xml
So in other words.. proctors all over again.. -- Ned Ludd <solar@g.o> Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-council@l.g.o mailing list

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