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From: Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@g.o>
To: Alistair Bush <ali_bush@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-council@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-council] CoC enforcement proposal
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:52:11
Message-Id: 20071111095202.GK5516@supernova
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-council] CoC enforcement proposal by Alistair Bush
1 On 11:01 Mon 12 Nov , Alistair Bush wrote:
2 > > All this team's actions must be approved by the lead within a short time
3 > > period or must be reverted. It's expected that many actions will range
4 > > from 6-12 hours, so 12 hours seems like a reasonable time to require
5 > > lead approval. Whenever the lead is unavailable, approval falls to the
6 > > council. (Remember, two council members together can make decisions.)
7 >
8 > My only problem with this is if we are going to impower a team to
9 > enforce a CoC we should be prepared to stick by them. Also what is a
10 > short period of time wrt 12 hours? So either I would would hope that
11 > the approval of council with either be removed, or never used.
12
13 Maybe this wasn't clear, but I was trying to define the short time
14 period as 12 hours. Is that the answer you're looking for?
15
16 > I believe that the reassessment of the CoC team should occur more
17 > frequently to begin with (at least). i.e. every 6 month's. As time
18 > progresses we may find that the period can be extended. But im sure we
19 > are all aware of the importance of setting this up correctly to begin with.
20 >
21 > I would therefore like to propose that initially there is something
22 > along the lines of:-
23 >
24 > * 3 Monthly Meetings, between council and CoC Team Leader where cases
25 > are reviewed and advice/discussion can occur. This should be followed
26 > shortly with a CoC meeting.
27 >
28 > * 6 Monthly Meeting, where council evaluates performance and vision of
29 > each CoC member.
30
31 I'm a little confused by the phrasing, and I'm reading it as "a meeting
32 every 3 months" and "a meeting every 6 months" because "3 monthly
33 meetings" would mean three meetings every month.
34
35 I agree with you that postmortem reviews are important and valuable. At
36 the very beginning, I'd suggest even communication than this because of
37 the importance of getting things started right -- every council meeting
38 for the first three months would not be too much.
39
40 Thanks,
41 Donnie
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