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From: Denis Dupeyron <calchan@g.o>
Subject: Re: Amending GLEP39
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:07:36 -0600

> Gentoo is not a real democracy. The elected council have just had their
> mandate created - they have not even met once yet.
> Let them use it.
> Most developers won't care. Look at the turnout for the council
> election.
> Developers that do care can lobby the council prior to any vote then
> council can vote taking into account any lobbying.
> Lets not pretend that we can keep everyone happy - we are all wise
> enough to know thats not true, so lets not even try and lets not put
> any more effort into fixing the slackers and proxies parts of GLEP 39
> than we really need to.
> The difference is between the mathematical precision of a referendum
> and being close enough for all practical purposes.

I totally agree with all of this. I proposed the unanimity rule
because I know some council members strongly think that any change to
GLEP39 requires a vote by all developers. And I figured they might be
willing to accept a unanimous council decision instead. Now, if they
can be convinced that a super- or simple majority vote is enough then
I'm all for it.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Roy Bamford<neddyseagoon@g.o> wrote:
> The council were elected to look after the engineering side of Gentoo

Here's a common misconception I'd like to clear. Nothing in GLEP39
limits the council's responsibility to the engineering side of Gentoo.
On the contrary, GLEP39 deals mostly with project management and
organization, developer activity, discipline, etc... However, the
successive councils slowly shifted to be mostly technical, if not
only. I have a theory as to why this happened, but it really doesn't
matter. I would very much like to fix that during this term because
not only does GLEP39 imply that the council should care about
non-technical aspects, but I'm of the opinion that if it doesn't
happen we'll be slowly rotting. I will be sending more propositions
about this to this list in the coming days/weeks. The first step is
deciding how we can amend GLEP39 though.


Re: Amending GLEP39
-- Ferris McCormick
Re: Amending GLEP39
-- Roy Bamford
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