List Archive: gentoo-council
Note: Due to technical difficulties, the Archives are currently not up to date.
provides an alternative service for most mailing lists.c.f. bug 424647
On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 09:31 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 12:36 Thu 14 Feb , Ferris McCormick wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 02:13 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > What I want to do is build a core culture of people who refuse to
> > > tolerate assholes. We can do this by getting together a small group
> > > who will reply to any gentoo-dev posts or #gentoo-dev comments by
> > > people who are being jerks, telling them that they're being a jerk
> > > and not replying to the substance of the jerk's post at all. Replies
> > > to the substance of a post would come separately or not at all.
> > > Having a group of people reply to hostile posters should begin
> > > rebuilding a culture that doesn't tolerate that type of action.
> > >
> > > People who are consistently jerks are incompetent developers and
> > > should be treated as such.
> > Nice idea and worth a try. I have one concern. Since we are talking
> > CoC here, I'd like to emphasise that "assholeness" should be
> > determined within the guidelines of the CoC. Not by some person's own
> > conception of "assholeness" --- I'd hate to see a flame war about just
> > who is being the asshole in any particular instance.
> You make a good point. The CoC  is subject to some level of
> interpretation, and I think that these two provisions pretty much
> provide for what I'm suggesting:
> Be courteous. Though respect is earned, it must start somewhere.
> Respect someones right for their own opinion and acknowledge that they
> do deserve a measure of politeness in your response.
> Respectfully disagree with or challenge other members. The operative
> word here is respectfully.
> One thought I've had is that once we get this small group of people, we
> could talk in an IRC channel about whether a particular instance
> qualifies before responding.
> 1. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/coc.xml
So in other words.. proctors all over again..
Ned Ludd <firstname.lastname@example.org>
email@example.com mailing list