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To: Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@g.o>
From: Ned Ludd <solar@g.o>
Subject: Re: CoC: informal enforcement
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:39:19 -0800
On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 09:31 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 12:36 Thu 14 Feb     , Ferris McCormick wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 02:13 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > What I want to do is build a core culture of people who refuse to 
> > > tolerate assholes. We can do this by getting together a small group 
> > > who will reply to any gentoo-dev posts or #gentoo-dev comments by 
> > > people who are being jerks, telling them that they're being a jerk 
> > > and not replying to the substance of the jerk's post at all. Replies 
> > > to the substance of a post would come separately or not at all. 
> > > Having a group of people reply to hostile posters should begin 
> > > rebuilding a culture that doesn't tolerate that type of action.
> > > 
> > > People who are consistently jerks are incompetent developers and 
> > > should be treated as such.
> > 
> > Nice idea and worth a try.  I have one concern.  Since we are talking 
> > CoC here, I'd like to emphasise that "assholeness" should be 
> > determined within the guidelines of the CoC.  Not by some person's own 
> > conception of "assholeness" --- I'd hate to see a flame war about just 
> > who is being the asshole in any particular instance.
> 
> You make a good point. The CoC [1] is subject to some level of 
> interpretation, and I think that these two provisions pretty much 
> provide for what I'm suggesting:
> 
>   Be courteous. Though respect is earned, it must start somewhere. 
>   Respect someones right for their own opinion and acknowledge that they 
>   do deserve a measure of politeness in your response.
> 
>   Respectfully disagree with or challenge other members. The operative 
>   word here is respectfully.
> 
> One thought I've had is that once we get this small group of people, we 
> could talk in an IRC channel about whether a particular instance 
> qualifies before responding.
> 
> Thanks,
> Donnie
> 
> 1. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/coc.xml


So in other words.. proctors all over again..

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Ned Ludd <solar@g.o>
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