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From: Thomas Anderson <gentoofan23@g.o>
Subject: Initial Council Meeting Summary for 12 March 2009
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:58:00 -0400
Hi,

   Attached.

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Thomas Anderson
Gentoo Developer
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Areas of responsibility:
AMD64, Secretary to the Gentoo Council
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Roll Call:
===========
Betelgeuse: here
Cardoe: here
dberkholz: here
dertobi123: here
dev-zero: here
leio: here
lu_zero: absent(?, waiting for feedback), 37 minutes late
tanderson(secretary): here

Topics:
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EAPI-3 Proposals:

    Note: The following two proposals were discussed before it was realized
    that there was not sufficient time to discuss all of them. At that point a
    call for objections to any of the proposals found at [1] was asked for,
    and none were made.

    - [flag(+/-)] USE dependencies
        This may be needed when one wishes to depend on a package with a
        certain USE flag but if the USE flag is not present in that package
        assume it is on or off(+ and - respectively).

        Conclusion:
            Approved for the draft.

    - New phase: pkg_pretend
        This phase is most useful for displaying conflicting USE flags at
        dependency resolution time(pretend), though it has various other uses
        so that errors about installing the package can be displayed before
        installation of packages begin.

        Conclusion:
            Approved for the draft.

Technical Issues:

    - GLEP 54
        Thomas(tanderson) sent out a comparison of GLEP 54 and the liveebuild proposals.
        Among those discussing GLEP 54 there was a general consensus that
        there was nothing wrong with it as a first step to get correct
        ordering. Luca(lu_zero) commented that all he was concerned about was
        that there was not enough 'meat' to the GLEP.

        Conclusion:
            No decision yet, Doug(Cardoe) and Luca(lu_zero) intend to write a
            GLEP to handle the second part of the problem(making the revision
            available to ebuilds/package manager/users.

    - GLEP 55
        Petteri, Zac, and Ciaran were supposed to benchmark the various
        proposals and report back. Zac did not write the code for portage so
        Petteri had nothing to report on this issue. Ciaran commented that
        the solutions other than GLEP 55 had a 50% slowdown in the valid cache
        situation compared to GLEP55, but did not post the raw numbers or the
	patches used.

Open Floor:
===========

- Migration of KEYWORDS from ebuilds to profiles:
  Ned Ludd(solar) brought this up, but it came up in the middle of agenda
  items so was not talked about much. Some points were made that such a scheme
  would require a git conversion, but nothing was agreed upon because there
  was too little time.


References:
[1]: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pPAJXP6shYH78lCXeqRqCUQ
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