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On 2008.07.14 07:35, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Can people be entirely banned from Gentoo?
> 
> - What would such a ban include? Some ideas -- the person could not:
>   - Post to any gentoo mailing list;
>   - Post to gentoo bugzilla;
>   - Participate in #gentoo- IRC channels; 
>   - Contribute to gentoo (hence my corner case of a security fix)
> except 
>     perhaps through a proxy;

All of these things require the co-operation of the banee.
email addresses to subscribe to lists are unlimited  and easy to 
change.

IRC nicks can be registered for the asking.
Does #gentoo- include non-English channels?

We should not make rules we cannot enforce, the best we can do it to 
make it difficult for the bannee to do these things without pushing 
them to the trouble of swapping email addresses, IRC nicks etc.

> 
> - Why would we do it?
We wouldn't - its more trouble than its worth to enforce.

> 
> - Under whose authority would it happen?
*rel against 'contrubutors' with a history.

> 
> - Would it be reversible? What conditions would cause this?
N/A
> 
>   Since the banned person couldn't participate in Gentoo, we'd never 
>   know whether anything changed.
> 
> - How would one appeal this? Would there be a chance to respond 
> before
>   the ban?
Why would there be any right of appeal at all?
Its not like the bannee would have had no warning.
While I don't see this being implemented at all, its really a desparate 
last measure. 

> 
> - Would moderating the gentoo-dev mailing list obsolete this concept?
No.

It would make it less likely to be used as potential banees would get 
gentle tugs on their leashes more frequently, as they currently do in 
#gentoo and on the forums. Even there, some contributors are 
permanently banned and a some are known to have come back with new 
identities. 

Following on that model, I could go with a permanent ban on an online 
identity without a permanent ban on the individual holding it, so that 
if they come back with a new identity, after a suitable period and 
behave, they are permitted to remain.

That also gets around all the 'mole' hunting.

> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Donnie
> 
> Donnie Berkholz
> Developer, Gentoo Linux
> Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com
> 

- -- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(NeddySeagoon) a member of
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