List Archive: gentoo-council
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Note that while I inadvertantly cross posted (I was intending on
cc'ing email@example.com, not the ml), doubt they need to be cc'd
further- my original attention was to effectively ensure they were
paying aware of the details of this so that when I took it to them
folk were informed.
CC'ing gentoo-council so folk following it there know it moved
over to -dev. Your discussion of devmanual relevance needs some -dev
consensus anyways before the council should be deciding on it.
Also the cross posting is making betelgeuse cry anyways (and pissing
off my procmail setup) ;)
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:48:37AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Brian Harring wrote:
> > Roughly, VALID_USE is a list of constraints stating what the allowed
> > use flag combinations are for this pkg. If you think of normal
> > depdencies (I must have openssl and python merged prior), it's the
> > same machinery.
> Maybe we should first discuss if we want to drop the following
> rule  which your proposal seems to contradict:
Not just my proposal- council contradicted it via even letting
pkg_pretend into EAPI3 (now EAPI4):
> | Occasionally, ebuilds will have conflicting USE flags for
> | functionality. Checking for them and returning an error is not a
> | viable solution. Instead, you must pick one of the USE flags in
> | conflict to favour.
>  <http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/use-flags/>
I honestly consider the ebuild silently making decisions on the user's
behalf *worse*. Consider if openoffice silently made decisions like
that- 4 hours later it'll wind up choosing the option you didn't
really want and you'll be in a foul mood.
Frankly is the devmanual even relevant on at this point beyond good
practices btw? Last I looked through it, there was a rather unhealthy
mix of good policy that we follow, and policy that isn't relevant
anymore- in need of some cleanup at the very least.