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On Saturday 24 January 2004 21:58, Gytis Raciukaitis wrote: |
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> 5) printer manager. At least for CUPS. |
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This is allready in kde, also I find http://localhost:631/ to be the best way |
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to configure cups. A tool might be possible to assist in some of the settings |
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not available through these tools (think access control etc) |
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> 6) device manager. kernel modules, module parameters, usb devices. |
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We would first need to make a manual for doing this, then make a tool that can |
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support it. I think it is not a priority right now. |
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> 7) Date, time, locale configuration. |
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Timezone and locale I agree (it also needs some research on how to set it |
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properly). For date and time there are allready too many tools. |
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> 8) Font configurator. |
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Offered by kde at least. I don't know about gnome. It could be improved |
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though. A manual though has a greater priority as it would describe how to do |
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the things that the tool should do. |
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> 9) Samba, FTP - include simple file sharing setup and management for |
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> inexperienced users and most likely for basic start. |
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For inexperienced users I would reccomend agains ftp as it is unsecure. Samba |
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has an excellent configurator in swat. |
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> 10) Global gentoo specific configuration, interface for rc.conf. |
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> if we could make the whole thing modular and provide good API, the list |
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> could evolve. |
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That allmost sounds like linuxconf. |
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> First of all let's decide what level of tools we need. All the hackers |
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> outthere will be using good ol' "vi some.conf" method, but for new users |
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> these tools and the ease of use might be a critical point in choosing |
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> Gentoo. |
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For me the tools should be helpfull in daytoday administration of gentoo. I |
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don't think we should target newbees. When things are a bit more complicated |
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it forces people to think first, and then press the button. This does not |
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mean that things should be overcomplicated. It just means that the tool |
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should not make decisions for you (like the rest of gentoo tries to avoid |
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that). Not making decisions for the user means to me that a configuration |
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tool should aim at supporting every configuration possible and especially |
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should never ever preclude the use of alternative configuration tools (ever |
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tried to configure cups with the redhat tool? they conveniently forgot the |
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privileged port option, so you cannot use the tool at all, but they do put |
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many warnings against not editing the file) |
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Paul |
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Paul de Vrieze |
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Gentoo Developer |
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Mail: pauldv@g.o |
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Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net |