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From: dams@×××.fr
To: gentoo-desktop-research@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] definitions draft
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:29:43
Message-Id: m265i11c94.fsf@krotkine.idm.fr
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] definitions draft by Rune Morling
Rune Morling <gentoo@××.dk> said:

> Dams, > > I have a few comments. I've added a few words to your > writeup - they are marked with _underscores_ > > On 10/29/03 09:44:24, dams@×××.fr wrote: >> >> >> I agree with GLEP integration. What about : >> >> >> >> * Exploration phase - GOAL : describe and decide >> - throw a description here, verify validity >> - preliminary discussion here and/or irc >> - Optional : Prepare a prototype, testcase or a little code snippet >> to let everybody play. >> *** we put it here, it should be done only if usefull, and should >> not take time. A lot of problems won't be compatible with prototypes >> *** >> - APPROVAL 1 : does it worth it to handle it (see below). The result >> should be written to the mailing list and on the xml project page if >> we decide to handle the case. > > I definitely think the devs who are responsible or directly involved > in whatever problem we're trying to tackle should be consulted during > this phase. They may provide valuable insight on how *NOT* to address > the problem, thereby perhaps shaving off unnecessary discussions.
that's right. We should add something here. I'll add : - talk with the devs that are the most concern with the issue, get additional infos, ask if there is a good reason not to handle it, inform them that plan to address a GLEP
> >> >> * _Draft_ phase [strict deadline] - GOAL : have a GLEP _draft_ >> - add new tasks : at least some time to research further (with a >> milestone), and some time to find a solution (with milestone). >> - one of the tak should be GLEP writing. Possibly one people should >> take care that the _draft_ is conforming to GLEP standard >> - assign people to the task, set up deadlines >> - all this should be well written in the xml project pages, and >> should end with a new and shiny GLEP _draft_ >> - APPROVAL 2 (see below) >> >> xml project pages precisions : their main goal is to organize the >> work, and archive what's been done. They should be the canva to the >> GLEP and development production. >> >> GLEP precision : should contain contain the key parts of the >> discussions of the discussion phase, problem identification (what is >> the problem), problem acceptation (is this really a problem), >> problem exploration (what are the causes and possible solutions to >> the problem) , proposed solution and the merrits of this particular >> solution. The latter of course from later discussions. >> >> Decisions >> --------- >> We'll try to work together in a friendly manner, so no use to be >> strict for every points. Nevertheless, rules are still usefull for >> extreme situations. >> >> APPROVAL 1 : at the end of the Revision phase, we should try to come >> to an agreement that we should handle the case. >> >> APPROVAL 2 : I think it'd good to warn people outside of >> -desktop-research at this point, like leaders and other devs. They >> should decide if they approve the GLEP. Maybe we should warn/inform >> them before the GLEP > > To quote the GLEP draft itself: > > "GLEP authors are responsible for collecting community feedback on a > GLEP before submitting it for review. A GLEP that has not been > discussed on gentoo-dev@g.o and/or the Gentoo Linux forums [7] > will not be accepted. However, wherever possible, long open-ended > discussions on public mailing lists should be avoided. Strategies to > keep the discussions efficient include setting up a specific forums > thread for the topic, having the GLEP author accept private comments in > the early design phases, etc. GLEP authors should use their discretion > here." > > Hence, the above point that we should probably try to pull in the dev > responsible of whatever it is we're trying to address in a GLEP, before > moving to APPROVAL 1. > > Also, APPROVAL 2 is only *OUR* approval of the GLEP draft. The official > GLEP approval is actually a third and separate approval and thus > strictly speaking, is no longer in our hands alone. The GLEP will only > be supported if we have included a wider audience in typing up the > draft during PHASE2 and before APPROVAL 2.
ok I add this too. -- dams -- gentoo-desktop-research@g.o mailing list

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