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From: foser <foser@g.o>
To: gentoo-desktop-research@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] One research problem we could research
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 15:51:46
Message-Id: 1065714571.3824.70.camel@rivendell
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] One research problem we could research by dams@idm.fr
1 On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 16:46, dams@×××.fr wrote:
2 > yeah, that's a big issue actually, but that is related to the i18n problem.
3 > That is, there is no step in the installation to choose your localization, so
4 > that everything takes it in account. pauldv told me it requires changes in
5 > portage.
6
7 Hardly, it needs a different approach in some cases. I could see font
8 setup happen all outside of portage, Portage changes take too long to be
9 taken into account and font configuration is pretty centralized these
10 days.
11
12 > For the subjective way of testing, of course you are right, but you can test
13 > gentoo by default, then other distro by default, or windows or other OS by
14 > default (for those who have them). So for the same person, you'll be able to
15 > say : this is better than that...
16
17 This is still subjective. Gentoo defaults should stay as close as
18 possible to upstream defaults in my opinion.
19
20 > That's only theoric, because that involve a lot of testing (test gentoo, 2
21 > other distros, windows and macos) and multiple testers (from various
22 > locations).
23 >
24 > Maybe we could ask non western testers to help.
25
26 Yeah, when a framework is set up and it's about tweaking only. At the
27 moment it is not relevant.
28
29 > in flux ?
30
31 Things concerning this have been in the works. Actually it is waiting
32 for that until a next step is taken, although it could maybe use an
33 impulse, but this is not all on Gentoo level.
34
35 > hmm, what is our duty then? what are the applications that we should check the
36 > look? In addition, I don't want us to correct them, but only to test them, see
37 > if a problem is general or only on 3 ebuilds, sadly used by a big amount of
38 > people.
39
40 It's easy to figure out what GUI applications are affected, mostly
41 non-recent GTK/QT apps that use the old ways to handle fonts.
42
43 > > Although they are connected, setting up fonts has little to do with
44 > > i18n.
45 >
46 > well, I'm looking for the way to see if the fonts look right in various
47 > language. We can ask volunteers to do that, but it'll take time. If one person
48 > has good knowledge of i18n he might already cover 80% of validation
49
50 Nah, as said i18n has little to do with fonts setup, it takes a native
51 reader to assess what fonts look best for a certain language or
52 preferably a lot of them to come to some good agreement.
53
54 - foser
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