On Tuesday 28 October 2003 18:25, dams@... wrote:
> * Discussion/planning phase
> - throw a description here, verify validity
> - preliminary discussion here and/or irc
> - APPROVAL 1 : does it worth it to handle it (see below)
>
> * Prototype phase [no strict deadlines/roadmap, but should be not very
> long] - Prepare a testcase or a little code snippet to let everybody play
> with possible solution.
> - With the help of the other insterested in (small groups or everybody)
> let's try to get a fully working program.
>
I think that we need to be careful here. This "solution" should not be more 
than 2 hours of work. Other work needs to be done after the glep has been 
written and issued.

> * Revision phase [strict deadline]
> - add a new task : at least some time to research further (with a
> milestone), and some time to find a solution (with milestone).
> - assign people to the task, set up deadlines
> - all this should be well written in the xml project pages.
> - APPROVAL 2 (see below)
>
I think this should go together with the writing of a GLEP. This glep should 
also contain the key parts of the discussions of the discussion phase 
including problem identification (what is the problem), problem acceptation 
(is this really a problem), problem exploration (what are the causes and 
possible solutions to the problem) , proposed solution and the merrits of 
this particular solution. The latter of course from later discussions.

> * Project tracking
> - once the planning phase end with approval (see below), the thing should
> end up to a GLEP
> - the d-r site should host a little summary of every project with phases
> and timings once we are in the Proto phase.

I think the proto phase can better be called the problem exploration phase. 
Its purpose to refine the problem and find possible solutions.

>
> Decisions
> ---------
> We'll try to work together in a friendly manner, so no use to be strict for
> every points. Nevertheless, rules are still usefull for extreme situations.
>
> APPROVAL 1 : at the end of the Revision phase, we should try to come to an
> agreement that we should handle the case.
>
> APPROVAL 2 : I think it'd good to warn people outside of -desktop-research
> at this point, like -desktop leader.
>
>
> What do you think?

I think we might need to add a few lines about the necessity to make sure that 
the solution is acceptable to the developers at large. I believe that glep 
integration is very important to that respect.

>
> As soon as we finish writing this draft, we'll put it officially on the
> project page, and we'll be (at last) able to begin the Real Work :)

certainly.

Paul

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