Gentoo Archives: gentoo-desktop-research

From: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>
To: gentoo-desktop-research@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] One research problem we could research
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:00:12
Message-Id: 200310092000.09203.pauldv@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] One research problem we could research by foser
1 On Thursday 09 October 2003 17:37, foser wrote:
2 > >
3 > > I think that everyone agrees that ragged fonts are ugly (not rendered as
4 > > intended). This happens mainly without aa. Personally I use aa for fonts
5 > > that are outside the "normal range", so I would like that we try to make
6 > > things look ok with both.
7 >
8 > If you don't use AA you shouldn't be using TTF fonts, it's a whole
9 > different setup. In one way i agree with users that in essence good
10 > bitmap fonts are better for the desktop, but good bitmap fonts cost $$$.
11
12 Well, actually the ttf fonts are the best looking on my system (yes and non-AA
13 in the sizes 8-17 as I don't like fuzzy fonts). I agree that bitmap fonts
14 give better results, but only if they are not scaled. What also goes wrong
15 sometimes is ps fonts.
16
17 >
18 > > For non-latin, I think we should look into making clear what needs to be
19 > > done for making it look good, which packages should be installed etc. Not
20 > > all people who would use those fonts know that.
21 >
22 > I believe they do, otherwise they're stuck with incomplete charsets or
23 > characters from different packs with different look. Anyway, this is all
24 > part of a much bigger picture.
25
26 They have to, if say, the desktop-guide would give that information it would
27 save them (and me, as my girlfriend wants to be able to read and write
28 Chinese (simplified)) a lot of headaches.
29
30 > >
31 > > We can at least identify the misrendered ones. (At least with -core, with
32 > > qt, and with gtk2/pango). Those should render approximately the same,
33 > > sometimes they don't. That might be fixable.
34 >
35 > One and the same font renders the same everywhere, only config settings
36 > influence this (well except for OO maybe).
37
38 And the same fonts are chosen for the same name. fontconfig plays it's own
39 little role, just as the core font protocol does. And pango and qt as
40 wrappers around the font system.
41
42 Paul
43
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45 Paul de Vrieze
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