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On Thursday 09 October 2003 16:31, foser wrote:
>
> Here you already have a problem, the perception of font quality differs
> per-person and language. Some people really dislike AA (requires
> different fonts to be good), others use different types of displays,
> etc. And not latin language users usually know that they need extra
> packs to have decent support, don't expect anything non-latin to look
> good by default atm.
>

I think that everyone agrees that ragged fonts are ugly (not rendered as 
intended). This happens mainly without aa. Personally I use aa for fonts that 
are outside the "normal range", so I would like that we try to make things 
look ok with both.

For non-latin, I think we should look into making clear what needs to be done 
for making it look good, which packages should be installed etc. Not all 
people who would use those fonts know that.

> Again this is mostly a personal thing and it currently also depends on
> how you install xfree (this is in flux).

We can at least identify the misrendered ones. (At least with -core, with qt, 
and with gtk2/pango). Those should render approximately the same, sometimes 
they don't. That might be fixable.

>
> > - check the fontconfig, xft configurations
> > - list known software that doesn't use the good font systems.
>
> That is not something up to us really, i don't feel it is our duty to
> make legacy applications look good, what matters to me is to get a
> current desktop (KDE/GNOME/XFCE4) reasonably ok/consistent looking
> fontwise (for as far as it isn't).
>

I agree, with the exception that I think that core fonts should be at least 
reasonable.

> > In addition, we can think of making font managment easy for the user. (I
> > wrote the font managment tool for mandrakeLinux, he had some working
> > features, but uses old font tools).
>
> Ehm, no please. Config defaults should be good enough, users should not
> be exposed to this via another GUI. Gnome already has a sufficient font
> settings panel and ways to install fonts, so does KDE to my knowledge. I
> don't like more ways to set the same thing on the same level (in this
> case on GUI level), it is confusing.
>

This should indeed not be a priority.

Paul


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Paul de Vrieze
Gentoo Developer
Mail: pauldv@g.o
Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net
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