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From: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>
To: gentoo-desktop-research@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] One research problem we could research
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 13:22:34
Message-Id: 200310091522.32227.pauldv@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] One research problem we could research by foser
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4 On Thursday 09 October 2003 15:09, foser wrote:
5 > On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 11:21, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
6 > > I have one thing we might opt to research (after we have the project
7 > > procedures done). We might want to look into making good-looking fonts
8 > > available standardly.
9 >
10 > This is already being worked on, but we're waiting for some improvements
11 > in the xfree/fontconfig area to make this happen. It just isn't powerful
12 > enough at the moment.
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14 If that is the only way then we might come to the conclusion that the best
15 solution is to wait. I do think though that at least good documentation might
16 be another solution.
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18 > Anyway, this suggestion is very western centered, if you mess with
19 > defaults you might easily end up with weird results for non-western
20 > users.
21 >
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23 I did not mean to be western-centered. I was suggesting that we look into
24 improving the fonts. I don't want non-western fonts to be looking worse
25 because of it. Actually did you try sometime to run konsole with
26 LC_CTYPE="zh_CN", it is really ugly, and it should be possible to fix this.
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28 > You should install exactly the same fonts to have the same effect and
29 > thats also a question of installing windows fonts or not. KDE just has
30 > bad font defaults, helvetica everywhere is just a bad choice. Current
31 > fontconfig setups should solve most of these problems afaik.
32 >
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34 I agree that helvetica is a bad choice, but we might look into making
35 helvetica look not too bad at least in some cases
36
37 > afaik OO uses its own (outdated?) freetype etc. Do from source ebuilds
38 > have these problems too ? They could use the system libs and settings.
39
40 I always use from source openoffice. I don't perceive any font problems. In
41 the from-source version we do indeed use the latest freetype.
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43 Paul
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