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From: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@g.o>
Subject: Re: One research problem we could research
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:22:18 +0200
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On Thursday 09 October 2003 15:09, foser wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 11:21, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> > I have one thing we might opt to research (after we have the project
> > procedures done). We might want to look into making good-looking fonts
> > available standardly.
>
> This is already being worked on, but we're waiting for some improvements
> in the xfree/fontconfig area to make this happen. It just isn't powerful
> enough at the moment.

If that is the only way then we might come to the conclusion that the best 
solution is to wait. I do think though that at least good documentation might 
be another solution.

> Anyway, this suggestion is very western centered, if you mess with
> defaults you might easily end up with weird results for non-western
> users.
>

I did not mean to be western-centered. I was suggesting that we look into 
improving the fonts. I don't want non-western fonts to be looking worse 
because of it. Actually did you try sometime to run konsole with 
LC_CTYPE="zh_CN", it is really ugly, and it should be possible to fix this.

> You should install exactly the same fonts to have the same effect and
> thats also a question of installing windows fonts or not. KDE just has
> bad font defaults, helvetica everywhere is just a bad choice. Current
> fontconfig setups should solve most of these problems afaik.
>

I agree that helvetica is a bad choice, but we might look into making 
helvetica look not too bad at least in some cases

> afaik OO uses its own (outdated?) freetype etc. Do from source ebuilds
> have these problems too ? They could use the system libs and settings.

I always use from source openoffice. I don't perceive any font problems. In 
the from-source version we do indeed use the latest freetype.

Paul

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Paul de Vrieze
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Mail: pauldv@g.o
Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net
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