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From: Johannes Neugschwentner Jr <neugschwentner@...>
Subject: Re: thesis - support - question - ideas ...
Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 11:57:06 +0200
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<p><span style="color:#000000">Hi!</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">@john nilsson</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">&gt;I hope that involves most things from Donal Norman. Also don't miss Jeff</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">&gt;Raskins. Another concept that might be interesting in this space is</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">&gt;David Allens theoris for &quot;Getting Things Done&quot;. I've also found som nice</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">&gt;articles on</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">&gt;Also do some searching for activity based computing.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">The theory actually is seperated in 3 parts:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:600;color:#000000">* The GUI </span><span style="color:#000000">[ got JEFF RASKINS in here!]</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">	- history,development ( zit. n. Mike Tuck,, vgl. Douglas C. Engelbart,, Jeremy Reimer,</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">	- the desktop metaphor &amp; alternate developments (filing, piling, lifestreams ..) (beyond the desktop metaphor, mit press)</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">	- the social dimension (beyond the desktop metaphor, mit press)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:600;color:#000000">* Designing Interactions </span><span style="color:#000000">(based on the book Designing interactions by bill moggridge - HE IS TALKIN ABOUT DAVID ALLENS and Getting Things Done ... or was it Mitch Kapor who was talking about that guy ... i think it was Mitch Kapor who bill was talkin about .. *g*)</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">	- designing for everyday life (david little, team leader at the xerox star interface)</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">	- how do you ...? (bill verplank, xerox star guy again ... about the process the designer developes an idea into an metaphor or scenario)</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">	- design adopts technology (david kelley, IDEO ... about sociological integrated technology)</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">	- things should be themselves (durrell bishop ... about designing functionality)</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">	- designing interactions (bill moggridge ... about ideo and the actual science of designing interactions)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:600;color:#000000">* Design Patterns</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">	.... about to come</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">	will be about some typical programming design patterns in the related context</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight:600;color:#000000">* Practical Part ....</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">Thank You :) would be great if you could get me that stuff of your friend ... however, could send some of my stuff as well if it wasn't german ...</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">@dams</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">&gt; My opinion on that is that we didn't achieve to get a consensu on what</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">&gt; was our vision of the gentoo desktop, and what we wanted to</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">&gt; improve/change. Some people at gentoo actually think that we shouldn't</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000">&gt; try to have a &quot;gentoo desktop&quot; concept : basically just including</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#008000">&gt; upstream desktop application is enough.</span></p>
<p>Hei, you really wanted to create one specific gentoo desktop?</p>
<p>what would that have been?</p>
<p>like a ready ebuild consisting of some special kde-features and some pre-arranged superkaramba themes??</p>
<p>sounds great!</p>
<p>still i'd say i very much understand your decision not to do something like this as the one's who are appreciating the features are growing less the more</p>
<p>specific and detailed the featured desktop gets ...</p>
<p>(see attachement *lol*)</p>
<p>uhm, i don't know what you mean by upstream desktop application ...</p>
<p>though i assume it is just options of extra-values the user can pick himself ..</p>
<p>anyway ... my idea is to do some kind of flash movie like integration into the background image of the desktop ...</p>
<p>it's not to replace any program functionalities ... i figured out that there are too many programs that do it's purpose too well so it would be nonsense to reinvent the wheel ...</p>
<p>i just thought it could be something pretty similar to that thing ...</p>
<p>maybe there could be some kind of functionality that would replace parts of file browsing and it's tree-structural kind of access ....</p>
<p>maybe the user could handle piles that would really be symlinked files in the file hierarchy (home/user/desktop/files/ ....) ... but he would never have to see and handle it this way (if he didn't want to)</p>
<p>maybe these files could be organized by properties like time, groups (work, spare time, fun, application, videos, pics .... ) and subgroups ... having some new kind of tools to easily and intuitivly access auto-generated piles by this very selected properties and groups.</p>
<p>ok, this is it. cu</p>
<p>-- </p>
<p>Johannes Neugschwentner</p>
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