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From: foser <foser@g.o>
Subject: Re: One research problem we could research
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:49:31 +0200
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 16:46, dams@... wrote:
> yeah, that's a big issue actually, but that is related to the i18n problem.
> That is, there is no step in the installation to choose your localization, so
> that everything takes it in account. pauldv told me it requires changes in
> portage.

Hardly, it needs a different approach in some cases. I could see font
setup happen all outside of portage, Portage changes take too long to be
taken into account and font configuration is pretty centralized these
days.

> For the subjective way of testing, of course you are right, but you can test
> gentoo by default, then other distro by default, or windows or other OS by
> default (for those who have them). So for the same person, you'll be able to
> say : this is better than that...

This is still subjective. Gentoo defaults should stay as close as
possible to upstream defaults in my opinion.

> That's only theoric, because that involve a lot of testing (test gentoo, 2
> other distros, windows and macos) and multiple testers (from various
> locations).
> 
> Maybe we could ask non western testers to help.

Yeah, when a framework is set up and it's about tweaking only. At the
moment it is not relevant.

> in flux ?

Things concerning this have been in the works. Actually it is waiting
for that until a next step is taken, although it could maybe use an
impulse, but this is not all on Gentoo level.

> hmm, what is our duty then? what are the applications that we should check the
> look? In addition, I don't want us to correct them, but only to test them, see
> if a problem is general or only on 3 ebuilds, sadly used by a big amount of
> people.

It's easy to figure out what GUI applications are affected, mostly
non-recent GTK/QT apps that use the old ways to handle fonts.

> > Although they are connected, setting up fonts has little to do with
> > i18n.
> 
> well, I'm looking for the way to see if the fonts look right in various
> language. We can ask volunteers to do that, but it'll take time. If one person
> has good knowledge of i18n he might already cover 80% of validation

Nah, as said i18n has little to do with fonts setup, it takes a native
reader to assess what fonts look best for a certain language or
preferably a lot of them to come to some good agreement.

- foser


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