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From: Eppo Beertema <beertema@××××××.nl>
To: gentoo-desktop@l.g.o
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Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:52:13
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On 20 September 2011 23:03, <gentoo-desktop+help@l.g.o> wrote:

> Topics (messages 1986 through 1994): > > [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. > 1986 - Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> > > [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. > 1987 - Sebastian Beßler <sebastian@××××××××××××.de> > > [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. > 1988 - Alex Schuster <wonko@×××××××××.org> > > [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. > 1989 - Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> > > [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. > 1990 - Sebastian Beßler <sebastian@××××××××××××.de> > > [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. > 1991 - Alex Schuster <wonko@×××××××××.org> > > [gentoo-desktop] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.10-r1 and hal USE flag > 1992 - Alex Schuster <wonko@×××××××××.org> > > [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. > 1993 - Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> > > [gentoo-desktop] How to get rid of things depending on KDE4. > 1994 - Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> > > > > I am still working on a stable install of KDE3 for a friend. Thing is, > some KDE4 stuff keeps getting pulled in. This is the list as best as I can > tell with my command: > > kde-base/khelpcenter-4.7.1 > kde-base/kdesu-4.7.1 > kde-base/nepomuk-4.7.1 > kde-base/kdelibs-4.7.1 > kde-base/kde-env-4.7.1 > > I suspect this is a USE flag problem but I can't figure it out for the life > of me. Here is the USE line from emerge --info: > > USE="3dnow 3dnowext X aac acpi alsa aml apng auto-hinter automount avahi > bash-completion berkdb bzip2 cairo cdda cddb cdr chroot cleartype cli > clucene consolekit corefonts cracklib cups curl cxx dbus declarative dri dvd > dvdr emboss encode escreen esd exif fam fdftk ffmpeg firefox flac fortran > gdbm gdu gif gimp gkrellm gnutls gphoto2 gpm gtk hbci hddtemp iconv ipv6 > java javascript jbig jpeg jpeg2k justify kde kipi lcms libnotify libwww > logrotate loop-aes mad mdnsresponder-compat melt mmx mng modules mp3 mp4 > mpeg mplayer mudflap mysql ncurses nls nptl nptlonly nsplugin offensive ofx > ogg opengl openmp pam pango parport pcre pdf perl phonon plasma png > policykit ppds ppp pppd python qt3 qt3support qt4 readline sasl sdl > seamonkey semantic-desktop session sift smp spell sse ssl > startup-notification svg sysfs syslog tcl tcpd threads tiff tk truetype > type1 udev unicode usb vcd vorbis webkit win32codecs wma wmf x264 x86 xcb > xcomposite xinerama xml xorg xscreensaver xv xvid yahoo zeroconf zlib" > > I have policykit disabled in make.conf but it is enabled according to > emerge --info. Is that the problem? One of them at least? I have tried to > remove that but they keep getting pulled in. I did get rid of some but > these last few are hair pullers to get rid of. > > Thanks for any tips. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > Am 18.09.2011 21:39, schrieb Dale: > > > Thanks for any tips. > > The first I would try is to remove the kde and kipi flags. If that helps > then set them via package.use for one package at a time so you find > what pulls kde4. > > Greetings > > Sebastian > > > Dale writes: > > > I am still working on a stable install of KDE3 for a friend. > > I gave up on this. I was not able to enable HAL :-) > > > Thing is, > > some KDE4 stuff keeps getting pulled in. This is the list as best as I > > can tell with my command: > > > > kde-base/khelpcenter-4.7.1 > > kde-base/kdesu-4.7.1 > > kde-base/nepomuk-4.7.1 > > kde-base/kdelibs-4.7.1 > > kde-base/kde-env-4.7.1 > > Use the -t/--tree argument to emerge, this will tell you what is pulling > them in. > > Wonko > > On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:39:12 -0500 > Dale <rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote: > > > I am still working on a stable install of KDE3 for a friend. Thing > > is, some KDE4 stuff keeps getting pulled in. This is the list as > > best as I can tell with my command: > > > > kde-base/khelpcenter-4.7.1 > > kde-base/kdesu-4.7.1 > > kde-base/nepomuk-4.7.1 > > kde-base/kdelibs-4.7.1 > > kde-base/kde-env-4.7.1 > > emerge --depclean -v =kde-base/khelpcenter-4.7.1 > > should show what keeps it around. And similarly for remaining packages. > > -- > Best regards, > Michał Górny > > Am 18.09.2011 23:23, schrieb Alex Schuster: > > Dale writes: > > > >> I am still working on a stable install of KDE3 for a friend. > > > > I gave up on this. I was not able to enable HAL :-) > > HAL is just on of many good reasons to avoid KDE3 and use something else > like e17 or xfce4. If KDE tools are needed then use the ones from KDE4, > they work flawless with other DE and WM > > Greetings > > Sebastian Beßler > > > > Sebastian Beßler writes: > > > Am 18.09.2011 23:23, schrieb Alex Schuster: > > > Dale writes: > > > > > >> I am still working on a stable install of KDE3 for a friend. > > > > > > I gave up on this. I was not able to enable HAL :-) > > > > HAL is just on of many good reasons to avoid KDE3 and use something else > > like e17 or xfce4. If KDE tools are needed then use the ones from KDE4, > > they work flawless with other DE and WM > > The problem were the kioslaves, without HAL, KDE3 was unable to detect > and automount external media. I wanted to keep the setup, the PC is > rather old and slow, but in the end I switched to KDE4. Using Sabayon > Linux instead of Gentoo, in order to avoid the compiles. > > Wonko > > Sorry for the looong delay. It's partially because I the system it remote > and I do not always have access to it, and partially because I nearly > forgot about this :) Sorry for that. > > Long, long ago Tiago Marques wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Brent Busby <brent@×××××××××.org> > > wrote: > > > On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Alex Schuster wrote: > > > >> Auto-mounting of external media like CDs does not work, I assume > > >> it's because I have no HAL support for kioslaves: > > >> > > >> leela ~ # USE=hal emerge -pv kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves:3.5 > > >> > > >> These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > >> > > >> Calculating dependencies... done! > > >> [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.**5.10-r1 USE="ldap > > >> samba - > > >> debug (-hal) -kdehiddenvisibility -openexr" 0 kB [1] > > > >> The (-hal) probably means that this USE flag is disabled by profile. > > >> Is there a way to enable it? Or does one have to mount CDs manually > > >> with KDE 3.5 now? > > >> > > >> I tried to put -hal in package.use.mask, and hal in > > >> package.use.force (whatever thsi is). And in package.use of course, > > >> but this does not help. When I look into the ebuild, it seems that > > >> sys- apps/dbus has to be compiled with qt3, but there is no such USE > > >> flag for this package. Maybe that's why hal is masked in the first > > >> place. > > >> > > >> So, is there anything I can do about it? > > > > > > Here's what I've had to do... > > > > > > In /etc/portage/package.use.mask: > > > > > > kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves -hal > > > app-cdr/k3b -hal > > Here, too. > > > > In /etc/portage/package.keywords (because newer masked ebuilds of > > > these two packages solve some build issues): > > > > > > kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 ~amd64 > > > kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 ~amd64 > > Done (with ~x86 instead). > > > > In /etc/portage/package.unmask: > > > > > > kde-base/kdelibs:3.5 > > > kde-base/kcontrol:3.5 > > > > > Hope this helps... > > No, it did not help :( > > > Install this and all will be ok: > > > > kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.10-r1 > > sys-apps/dbus-1.2.24 > > sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2 > > I tried, getting these ooold versions from the attic. But it still > didn't work out. > > But the PC is a rather old one, and so I decided to go away from Gentoo. > Using distcc helped, but only when I and my fast (well not really, but > much faster than that old Sempron) PC were there. I decided to try > Sabayon Linux, which is based on Gentoo, but binary. There is no KDE3, > though, so I had to install KDE4. Which is somewhat slow, maybe Xfce4 or > LXDE will be better. > > BTW, I'm not too happy with Sabayon either. The equo package manager is > not as sophisticated as emerge, for example it looks like it is not > possible to call it when another instance is already running. And I do > not yet understand how I can mix equo with portage. But I dod not dig > into this too much, the person using this PC mainly uses KMail, Firefox > and aMSN, and this is working fine. > > Anyway, thanks both of you for your assistance. > > Wonk > > Michał Górny wrote: > >> On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:39:12 -0500 >> Dale<rdalek1967@×××××.com> wrote: >> >> I am still working on a stable install of KDE3 for a friend. Thing >>> is, some KDE4 stuff keeps getting pulled in. This is the list as >>> best as I can tell with my command: >>> >>> kde-base/khelpcenter-4.7.1 >>> kde-base/kdesu-4.7.1 >>> kde-base/nepomuk-4.7.1 >>> kde-base/kdelibs-4.7.1 >>> kde-base/kde-env-4.7.1 >>> >> emerge --depclean -v =kde-base/khelpcenter-4.7.1 >> >> should show what keeps it around. And similarly for remaining packages. >> >> Did some of that already, just forgot to mention it. It seems to go into > circles. I installed KDE4 first then KDE3. I'm thinking about getting rid > of them both then installing just KDE3. I really think there is some USE > flag that is doing this. > > I did remove the KDE USE flag. It didn't help. I'm going to switch to a > plain Desktop profile. I think I have it on the KDE profile not that I > think about it. > > Thanks. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > Sebastian Beßler wrote: > >> Am 18.09.2011 21:39, schrieb Dale: >> >> Thanks for any tips. >>> >> The first I would try is to remove the kde and kipi flags. If that helps >> then set them via package.use for one package at a time so you find >> what pulls kde4. >> >> Greetings >> >> Sebastian >> >> > I set it to a plain desktop profile and that seemed to clean things up > nicely. Now we cooking with KDE3. > > Thanks much. I knew it was something simple that I was missing. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > >

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