Gentoo Archives: gentoo-desktop

From: Rasmus Wiman <rasmus@×××××.org>
To: gentoo-desktop@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop] What "just works" and what doesn't?
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:19:42
Message-Id: 20041018001939.7f496d0c.rasmus@wiman.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-desktop] What "just works" and what doesn't? by Lindsay Haisley
1 Lindsay Haisley <fmouse-gentoo@×××.com> wrote:
2
3 > Printers are an Issue in Linux, and it's not just Gentoo. Eric
4 > Raymond sent
5 > a flame letter to the CUPS people a while back detailing his horror
6 > story of
7 > setting up a CUPS printer. His story was chillingly similar to my own
8 > experience. It was a nightmare! Maybe the Gentoo devs could pick up
9 > the
10 > ball and make CUPS a little easier to use.
11
12 For what it's worth, I think that some band-aid could lessen the problem
13 ESR ran into a bit.
14
15 The problem is that everyone assumes that they have to do some
16 configuration work on the client, especially if the thing refuses to
17 print.
18
19 Warn them! The default install is actually perfectly able to find any
20 correctly set up CUPS print server. If it doesn't print, it's the server
21 that's incorrectly set up. I've tried several distros and they have all
22 found my server without me touching any config. I recently installed
23 Macos X on my Mac, and the first time I hit Command-P, the Oki 4w on my
24 cups server came up as the default printer and it printed without a
25 hitch.
26
27 Warn them! Add some text to the ebuild postinst bit that says that one
28 should generally not have to touch the config to set Cups up as a
29 client. Do the same in the admin web interface so they don't start
30 tinkering with setting up queues on their clients and so on. Tell them
31 that problems tend to be caused by incorrectly set up servers. And do it
32 in less geeky words than mine.
33
34 This, of course, does not solve the other problem: That setting up the
35 server is a nightmare, and that the docs on how to do it also is.
36
37 I'm treating cancer with aspirin, but hopefully it's a good start.
38
39 /Rasmus Wiman
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