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Thanks, eamjr56! |
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On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 07:43 +0000, eamjr56@×××××.com wrote: |
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> Now that you explained more fully the situation and why and what led |
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> to your problems I understand some of your frustrations. Sometimes |
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> wanting to fix one thing leads to other complex issues. Maybe (being |
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> Gentoo-specific) would be first to build your toolchain |
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> (linux-headers, glibc, binutils,and gcc) to today's versions then a |
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> "emerge -e world" so all of your stuff will be new and |
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> compatable-(your original problem). |
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The box is scheduled for replacement, as I've noted. The hardware is |
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old, relatively, and has limitations. Additionally, Gentoo has its |
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limitations as a desktop environment, although it's much easier to |
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maintain on servers. As Linux has to some extent penetrated the |
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marketplace, manufacturers are distributing drivers for things like |
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printers as .deb or .rpm files - no joy for Gentoo users :-( My sweetie |
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bought such a printer a while back, and I can't use it for this reason. |
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Pulling packages apart and installing the contents manually is possible, |
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but not simple, and I have other things to do. |
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I'm reluctant to "emerge -e world" on the box because X is seriously out |
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of date, and I've been trying to avoid having to deal with the issue. |
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revdep-rebuild takes days! And it bails if _any_ ebuild fails, so I |
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have to go to the office, figure out the problem, and restart the |
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process. When I get the box so it'll boot properly with a more recent |
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kernel I can at least move in that direction. |
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> All of this can be done in the background while you keep working. |
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> This is only one option. Feel free to use it or not. Sometimes I cuss |
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> the Gentoo devs for things they do that screws up my installs too. |
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Gentoo is substantially more complex as a distribution than are others. |
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Subtle screw-ups in ebuilds are more than just an annoyance on my |
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servers, where things break in the background after an emerge and I |
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don't find out until one or more customers calls me and says "**** isn't |
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working!" |
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> As to your kernel question as to "default" switches in Gentoo |
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> kernel I really don't think there are. Gen-kernel is one answer, but |
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> it never worked for me, I always had to get dirty with "make |
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> menuconfig". |
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I tried genkernel for a while and didn't like it. For one thing, I |
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recall that it installed an initrd, which introduced a level of |
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complexity that I didn't feel was necessary. I use an initrd on our |
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SOHO gateway box since the root filesystem is managed by EVMS, but I had |
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to manually re-write the initrd filesystem at one point pursuant to a |
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glibc upgrade! Too much work. |
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I assume that there must some mods to or initial setting of the default |
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kernel switches, somewhere, to avoid things such as enabling CONFIG_IDE |
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in a kernel build where it conflicts with recent releases of udev. |
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When I get a few moments to work on it again I'm starting with a new, |
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much more recent kernel and _not_ massaging my .config from a previous |
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kernel for it. I assume the default settings will at very least produce |
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a bootable system and I need only add drivers/modules for my hardware - |
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NIC, sound cards, etc. to get it up and running. I can go in and add |
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stuff later as needed. |
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> Hope you figure it out. Cheers |
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Thanks, really. I mean it! With a cooler head and a verified back down |
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plan for any changes I may make (plus the few points of light I received |
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on this list in spite of the misunderstandings), I'm 99% sure I can jump |
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in an fix the problem myself. If I post here with it again, I'll have |
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my presentation of the issue MUCH better organized and thought out. |
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