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On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 19:30 +0100, Roman Zilka wrote: |
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> > > I suggest quitting this discussion. It's getting way |
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> > > off-topic, too general and unfit for this mailinglist, as all these |
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> > > questions can be answered by checking sources someone else has |
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> > > previously spent their time on writing. |
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> > Roman, are you a moderator on this list? The Gentoo website describes |
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> > it as a "Mailing list devoted to Gentoo on the desktop" so I assumed |
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> > that Gentoo desktop security was an appropriate topic. |
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> > That having been said, perhaps you might recommend a few of the best |
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> > "sources someone else has previously spent their time on writing" since |
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> > you seem to have knowledge of these, and I'll be happy to let the thread |
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> > drop. |
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> This is exactly what this mailinglist primarily isn't for: re-relling |
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> stories Google can tell better, answering questions Google can answer. I |
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> say "primarily" - an off-topic off-shot here and there can't harm |
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> anyone, but we've had some already. If the list didn't have this policy |
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> and if it didn't more or less stick to it, it would have become a chat |
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> room for anyone who just doesn't want to take the time to search for |
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> themselves and instead opts for the lazier choice: just ask others, |
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> it's easier. |
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Well I didn't see anything about this in the list description on the |
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Gentoo website. I guess there's a list description that you apparently |
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know about that I missed. On friendly lists, people give useful |
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references when asked for them and don't suggest that others are "lazy" |
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when asking for them. |
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> I know it because I've been monitoring this list for years |
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> (read-only, for the most part). As you say: the list is for Gentoo on |
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> desktops. Not for general Linux security discussion. True, Gentoo is |
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> Linux, but we're here for Gentoo specifically. Otherwise we could just |
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> call the list "the list on everything" because, for example, Gentoo |
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> runs on CPUs and CPUs are in desktops, so random chat about CPU-related |
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> stuff is related to Gentoo on desktops. The same for any piece of |
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> hardware, and more than that. You get the idea. |
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Oh! Well that's abundantly clear! |
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> You boldly state that you'll be happy to drop this thread if certain |
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> conditions of yours are met. It sounds like you believe only you decide |
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> whether the thread is dropped or not and when. Well, it's not true. |
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C'est la vie. I politely asked you for a reference or two on the |
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subject, which you could have given me off list, if you'd wanted, using |
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far fewer words than you've used here to berate me. Others on this list |
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have been more generous, thoughtful and polite. |
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Perhaps you would also be kind enough to refrain from commenting further |
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on my Gentoo desktop booting problem, which is obviously a general |
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_Linux_ problem, and probably not appropriate for this forum either. |
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I've asked Jorge in private email for suggestions for a more appropriate |
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forum in which to pursue it. In any event, your participation on _that_ |
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thread, while minimally helpful, has mostly yielded more heat than |
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light. |
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And if you're not the moderator on this list, then who is, and would the |
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moderator please point me, via private email, to a full description of |
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what's appropriate and not appropriate for discussion on this list? - |
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something more complete than the simple, rather general description |
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which I read on <http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml>. Roman, since |
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you seem to know a great deal about it, perhaps _you_ could point me |
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such a description. I'm really not lazy, I just can't seem to find it. |
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Please excuse me if I don't just take your word for it, but I don't see |
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gentoo.org in your email address, and it's not clear to me that you have |
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any more authority than I do in the matter. |
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