[gentoo-desktop] Re: Digest of [e-mail] issue 44 (416-418)

[Cory Grunden]

Are ati-drivers working with 7.1 now without kernel panics?

On 5/13/06, gentoo-desktop+help@g.o
<gentoo-desktop+help@g.o> wrote:
> Topics (messages 416 throught 418):
>
> [gentoo-desktop] xorg 7.1 rc2, zooming known to be broken?
>      416 - Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
>
> [gentoo-desktop] xorg 7.1 rc2, zooming known to be broken?
>      417 - Marc Koschewski <marc@×××××××××××.org>
>
> [gentoo-desktop] Re: xorg 7.1 rc2, zooming known to be broken?
>      418 - Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
>
>
>
>
> OK, I'm testing xorg 7.1 rc2 (xorg-server-1.0.99.902-r1 and friends).
>
> EXA acceleration and composite ROCKS! =8^)  Transparency and the other
> composite tricks now use virtually no more CPU than with composite
> disabled, at least on a Radeon 9200SE using the native xorg ati driver,
> with dual monitors in merged framebuffer mode, on SMP Opteron 242s,
> compiled with gcc-4.1.0.  No more constant 50% of one CPU, as with 7.0!
>
> The biggest (only) problem so far is that the normal zoom keys
> (CTRL-ALT-NUMPLUS/NUMMINUS) have no effect.  Is that a known issue, or do
> I need to file an upstream bug?  I had tried the (less stable) rc1
> (.99.901) for a day or so, and saw the problem there, but didn't worry too
> much since that was only rc1.  I'm getting worried since it's still there
> in rc2, worried enough to ask about it.  I use that feature enough to
> definitely miss it!
>
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> * Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> [2006-05-09 08:54:44 -0700]:
>
> > OK, I'm testing xorg 7.1 rc2 (xorg-server-1.0.99.902-r1 and friends).
> >
> > EXA acceleration and composite ROCKS! =8^)  Transparency and the other
> > composite tricks now use virtually no more CPU than with composite
> > disabled, at least on a Radeon 9200SE using the native xorg ati driver,
> > with dual monitors in merged framebuffer mode, on SMP Opteron 242s,
> > compiled with gcc-4.1.0.  No more constant 50% of one CPU, as with 7.0!
> >
> > The biggest (only) problem so far is that the normal zoom keys
> > (CTRL-ALT-NUMPLUS/NUMMINUS) have no effect.  Is that a known issue, or do
> > I need to file an upstream bug?  I had tried the (less stable) rc1
> > (.99.901) for a day or so, and saw the problem there, but didn't worry too
> > much since that was only rc1.  I'm getting worried since it's still there
> > in rc2, worried enough to ask about it.  I use that feature enough to
> > definitely miss it!
>
> I use xbindkeys and transset-df for that ... am I missing something?
>
> BTW, font rendering with NVidia kernel driver is still crappy. Is there a
> workaround somewhere besides using the nv module?
>
> Regards,
> Marc
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> Marc Koschewski posted <20060509151248.GA11642@××××××××××××××××××.org>,
> excerpted below,  on Tue, 09 May 2006 17:12:48 +0200:
>
> > * Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net> [2006-05-09 08:54:44 -0700]:
> >
> >> OK, I'm testing xorg 7.1 rc2 (xorg-server-1.0.99.902-r1 and friends).
> >>
> >> The biggest (only) problem so far is that the normal zoom keys
> >> (CTRL-ALT-NUMPLUS/NUMMINUS) have no effect.  Is that a known issue, or do
> >> I need to file an upstream bug?  I had tried the (less stable) rc1
> >> (.99.901) for a day or so, and saw the problem there, but didn't worry too
> >> much since that was only rc1.  I'm getting worried since it's still there
> >> in rc2, worried enough to ask about it.  I use that feature enough to
> >> definitely miss it!
> >
> > I use xbindkeys and transset-df for that ... am I missing something?
>
> I've never used either.  Zoom has thru xorg 7.0 just worked, using the
> usual ctrl-alt-numplus/numminus keys.
>
> BTW, xrandr still works, and I can use krandrtray to set resolution with
> no problem, only that isn't the same as zoom keeps the same virtual size
> only changing the viewport size on the virtual display, while xrandr
> changes both, thereby trying to fit my panels in the shrunken real estate
> with little luck, but hogging it anyway.
>
> Hmm...  the xorg log shows this when I try to zoom.  It looks like the
> Radeon driver is getting the zoom key events, but isn't handling them.
> Given that, it's no surprise the problem hasn't been fixed as the ATI
> driver is still the same one used with -rc1. xf86-video-ati-6.6.0
>
> RADEONHandleMessage(0, "KeyEventMessage", "+VMode", retmsg)
> RADEONHandleMessage(0, "KeyEventMessage", "-VMode", retmsg)
>
>
> I did a bugzilla search at freedesktop.org.  Nothing I could find, but
> that doesn't say it's not there as I guess I don't know how to use the
> advanced search well enough, and I usually get either zarro bugs, or 200
> plus with many not even /close/.
>
> > BTW, font rendering with NVidia kernel driver is still crappy. Is there a
> > workaround somewhere besides using the nv module?
>
> Can't tell if you are asking me or in general.  I won't use slaveryware
> (see the sig), so I won't use NVidia video hardware.  I don't believe I
> could if I wanted to, at least legally, where EULAs are considered legal,
> as I don't believe I could accept theirs. As I said, a Radeon 9200SE here,
> using the native xorg freedomware drivers.
>
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> Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
> and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman in
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