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From: Neil Bothwick <neil@...>
Subject: Re: VMware Workstation 6.0?
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 16:00:53 +0000
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 06:56:29 -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

> "Unsupported" in this context means "I'm paying the same price for my 
> license as somebody who buys a Workstation license for a Windows or
> RHEL host and I expect that VMware will give me the same level of
> support".

Of course they will, as long as you pretend you are using Red Hat :(

They've stated what they support, it's your choice to run on a different
platform. "not supported" does not mean "not working". A more serious
concern is that their support only lasts for 30 days, after that you have
to buy support at $50 per question. Put in that context, the support is
worthless past the initial get-it-working stage, Google is much cheaper.

> I know 5.5 "works on Gentoo" and I'm pretty sure 6.0 will
> too. All I'm saying is that Gentoo is providing some level of support
> by putting ebuilds in Portage for something with no support from the
> vendor.

Gentoo devs are providing support for Gentoo users by enabling them to
manage WS installations through portage. That's all.

> I downloaded the Beta and tried it. I had some problems getting it to 
> work. I think someone on the forum helped me get going and I was able
> to get it to run, although it was so slow it was unusable once I did
> get it running.

Despite the startup warning about debug being enabled and this slowing
things dowm I found the speed similar to 5.5. Possibly because 6.0 is 64
bit native.

> But just yesterday I got an email from their support
> folks with the standard "We don't support what you're trying to do. A
> list of supported hosts can be found ..." disclaimer. All I'm saying is
> that they don't "support" us -- why should we "support" them by
> distributing their package and even supplying patches so that it works
> on Gentoo?

"We" aren't supporting anyone. The Gentoo devs are supporting us.
> I think I had this discussion a while back, and the upshot was that a 
> number of the Gentoo developers used VMware Workstation themselves, so 
> they made it work, and as long as VMware didn't forbid them from 
> distributing it, they didn't see anything wrong with distributing it. 

Gentoo don't distribute it, they only distribute a bash script and a
couple of patches. The rest comes from VMware. Distributing VMware isn't
really an issue anyway, I have distributed many tens of thousands of
copies, all within VMware's licence terms.

> Gentoo developer resources are finite, though, and if you've got the 
> right hardware in place, Xen beats the doodoo out of VMware for quite a 
> few "interesting" tasks like running a Windows guest. Gentoo developer 
> resources being finite ... :)

Doesn't Xen require a modified guest OS? I like VMware because it runs
the OS with no modifications. Having said that, Virtual Box looks
interesting and is near the top of my "to try" list.

Neil Bothwick

If you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail. *
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