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From: Neil Bothwick <neil@...>
Subject: Re: VMware Workstation 6.0?
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 16:00:53 +0000
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 06:56:29 -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:

> "Unsupported" in this context means "I'm paying the same price for my 
> license as somebody who buys a Workstation license for a Windows or
> RHEL host and I expect that VMware will give me the same level of
> support".

Of course they will, as long as you pretend you are using Red Hat :(

They've stated what they support, it's your choice to run on a different
platform. "not supported" does not mean "not working". A more serious
concern is that their support only lasts for 30 days, after that you have
to buy support at $50 per question. Put in that context, the support is
worthless past the initial get-it-working stage, Google is much cheaper.

> I know 5.5 "works on Gentoo" and I'm pretty sure 6.0 will
> too. All I'm saying is that Gentoo is providing some level of support
> by putting ebuilds in Portage for something with no support from the
> vendor.

Gentoo devs are providing support for Gentoo users by enabling them to
manage WS installations through portage. That's all.

> I downloaded the Beta and tried it. I had some problems getting it to 
> work. I think someone on the forum helped me get going and I was able
> to get it to run, although it was so slow it was unusable once I did
> get it running.


Despite the startup warning about debug being enabled and this slowing
things dowm I found the speed similar to 5.5. Possibly because 6.0 is 64
bit native.

> But just yesterday I got an email from their support
> folks with the standard "We don't support what you're trying to do. A
> list of supported hosts can be found ..." disclaimer. All I'm saying is
> that they don't "support" us -- why should we "support" them by
> distributing their package and even supplying patches so that it works
> on Gentoo?

"We" aren't supporting anyone. The Gentoo devs are supporting us.
 
> I think I had this discussion a while back, and the upshot was that a 
> number of the Gentoo developers used VMware Workstation themselves, so 
> they made it work, and as long as VMware didn't forbid them from 
> distributing it, they didn't see anything wrong with distributing it. 

Gentoo don't distribute it, they only distribute a bash script and a
couple of patches. The rest comes from VMware. Distributing VMware isn't
really an issue anyway, I have distributed many tens of thousands of
copies, all within VMware's licence terms.

> Gentoo developer resources are finite, though, and if you've got the 
> right hardware in place, Xen beats the doodoo out of VMware for quite a 
> few "interesting" tasks like running a Windows guest. Gentoo developer 
> resources being finite ... :)

Doesn't Xen require a modified guest OS? I like VMware because it runs
the OS with no modifications. Having said that, Virtual Box looks
interesting and is near the top of my "to try" list.
http://www.virtualbox.org/


-- 
Neil Bothwick

If you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail. *
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