Gentoo Archives: gentoo-desktop

From: Lindsay Haisley <fmouse-gentoo@×××.com>
To: gentoo-desktop@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop] X freezing?
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:45:28
Message-Id: 20041024224525.GD24658@fmp.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-desktop] X freezing? by steve fox
1 Is the system freeze-up total, or is the screen and HID input (mouse,
2 keyboard) simply frozen? If the box is on a network, try pinging it from
3 another box and see if it and see if it responds, or if it's running any
4 TCP/IP services, try connecting to them.
5
6 I've had lockups on my system too, affecting the keyboard, mouse and screen,
7 but they only happen once every month or two, and I've not worried about it.
8 This is better performance than MS Windows, for sure ;-) They usually happen
9 overnight while the box is on and running a screensaver.
10
11 Thus spake steve fox on Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 05:25:53PM CDT
12 > My system also freezes completely, and at unpredictble intervals,
13 > although only when using KDE or gnome. So, my thinking was that I had
14 > a bad power supply, or bad memory somwhere, but then discovered that I
15 > can run fluxbox/wmaker without any problems, although the KDE apps crash
16 > if I run them within fluxbox/wmaker.
17 >
18 > I ran emerge sync && emerge -pue kde, then re-installed the whole mess
19 > as if from an empty tree, and I get the same results.
20 >
21 > Some details:
22 > AT1 Radeon 8500, dual AMD MP CPUs, xorg 6.8, 2.6.7 kernel, using radeon
23 > driver with 3D acceleration. 1GB RAM and using NPTL.
24 >
25 >
26 > Sound familiar to anyone?
27 > Lindsay Haisley wrote:
28 > >In my experience, system freezes are hardware-related, sometimes failed
29 > >memory, or something else that throws the system completely off-track. One
30 > >of the more common and less obvious culprits is a seriously unclean power
31 > >from a failing power supply. It's difficult to troubleshoot this kind of
32 > >thing that happens unpredictably, but it might be instructive to kill X and
33 > >do a bit of stress testing from the cmd line, such as:
34 > >
35 > ># while [ 1 ]; do emerge openoffice; done
36 > >
37 > >[or some other large package that's heavy on i/o]
38 > >
39 > >Let this run for a few hours, days or whatever is the nominal time between
40 > >lockups and see if the problem recurs, which will eliminate X if it does
41 > >(but unfortunately not necessarily implicate X if it doesn't).
42 > >
43 > >I'm sure there are others who can suggest better stress-tests.
44 > >
45 > >Thus spake A. Gabriel W. Daleson on Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 04:02:55PM CDT
46 > >
47 > >> I'm not sure if this is something serious or merely me being
48 > >>incompetent at configuring X, but whenever I've run X on this Dell
49 > >>Inspiron
50 > >>XPS with a Radeon 9800 Mobility, the entire system locks up. It doesn't
51 > >>seem
52 > >>to follow any pattern - sometimes it's within the first five minutes,
53 > >>other
54 > >>times nearly an hour.
55 > >>
56 > >> The first time this happened, it destroyed the LCD, so I suspected
57 > >>refresh rates were set wrong; changing the HorizSync to 75 and VertRefresh
58 > >>to 60 hasn't helped.
59 > >>
60 > >> I've tried this with both the radeon driver included with X and
61 > >>ATI's proprietary driver, as well as both gentoo-sources and
62 > >>development-sources and X.org 6.7.0 and 6.8.0.
63 > >>
64 > >> I've had two lockups since then, but the display's still working.
65 > >>
66 > >> Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks for any help.
67 > >>
68 > >> Gabe.
69 > >>
70 > >>
71 > >>--
72 > >>gentoo-desktop@g.o mailing list
73 > >>
74 > >
75 > >
76 >
77 >
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