Re: [gentoo-desktop] [kde-sunset] KDE/Trinity 3.5.12 inside or outside sunset

[Roman]

Hi!

Since i haven't seen any reply since the 21st and 3.5.12 about to be released 
today, i'd say let's take a vote!

After reading the arguments, i have to rechoice and feel a new clean + frsh 
overlay could be be beneficial.

Also i think it would be good idea to start with clean ebuilds, without any  
(gentoo-sepcific) patches, if they are not needed for a working copy of 
trinity. This can be added later on..

On Tuesday 21 September 2010 14:08:01 Ladislav Laska wrote:
> As you may have noticed, there is another thread and some of current
> developers have suggested new overlay.
>
> I personally am not really decided what would be best. Addint it to
> current overlay does have its benefits - easy update and so on. But
> having overlay just for trinity gives better options for new users -
> they could install clean trinity, without third-party stuff (well, at
> least without unmaintained stuff). I'd imagine there are many tools
> noone uses.
>
> Well, I'd go for an overlay, but since we don't have a leader (don't
> we?) or some position like that, I feel like I shouldn't make an
> decision myself, so should we take a vote or something? :-)
>
> Regards Ladislav Laska
> S pozdravem Ladislav Laska
> ---
> xmpp/jabber: ladislav.laska@××××××.cz
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Ladislav Laska
>
> <ladislav.laska@×××××.com> wrote:
> > It should definitely be hardmasked until it's complete. When the time
> > comes and trinity will be ready, we shall unmask it and let users
> > upgrade.
> >
> > Anyone who wishes not to, could easily mask it back, since all trinity
> > ebuilds will be clearly higher version. We should also create a list
> > in documentation for this purpose (don't want to push users to
> > upgrade, since some of them are using 3.5.10 and may not want a
> > change).
> >
> > Regards Ladislav Laska
> > S pozdravem Ladislav Laska
> > ---
> > xmpp/jabber: ladislav.laska@××××××.cz
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Roman <lists@×××××××××.de> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> +1 for that.
> >>
> >> I think it would be too confusing if we add another overlay.
> >> Why not put TDE (are we calling it TDE now?) ~ or mask it via
> >> package.mask until we have a working (possibly not bug-free) version?
> >>
> >> On Tuesday 21 September 2010 10:07:52 Ladislav Laska wrote:
> >>> Yes, that's what I was thinking. I'm also thinking we could make all
> >>> "original" ebuilds stable and TDE releases sort out by ~, at least for
> >>> now.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Regards Ladislav Laska
> >>> S pozdravem Ladislav Laska
> >>> ---
> >>> xmpp/jabber: ladislav.laska@××××××.cz
> >>>
> >>> 2010/9/20 "Petr Morávek [Xificurk]" <xificurk@×××××.com>:
> >>> > Personally, I don't see much point in creating a new overlay since it
> >>> > would be most probably used by the same users as kde-sunset. We can
> >>> > still keep old ebuilds of latest official KDE3 packages there and in
> >>> > the same time add "new" releases of TDE.
> >>> >
> >>> > Petr
> >>> >
> >>> > Ladislav Laska napsal(a):
> >>> >> Hello,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I'd like to ask, what do you think of trinity project? The 3.5.12
> >>> >> release is relatively near and I'd like to start discussion wether
> >>> >> to incorporate it into sunset, or develop it in separate overlay.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I originally intended to do it in sunset, but now I'm not sure. The
> >>> >> development seems to be pretty serious and maybe it won't be sunset
> >>> >> anymore - I'd say we should create something like kde-resurrection.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> :-)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> What do you think?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Regards Ladislav Laska
> >>> >> S pozdravem Ladislav Laska
> >>> >> ---
> >>> >> xmpp/jabber: ladislav.laska@××××××.cz
> >>
> >> greetings,
> >> Roman
> >> --
> >> And they lifted up their voices, and said, Jesus, Master, have mercy
> >> on us.
> >>                 -- Luke 17:13



greetings,
Roman
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