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E. Liddell posted on Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:46:18 -0500 as excerpted: |
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> On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:39:00 +0100 Dominique Michel |
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> <dominique.michel@××××××.ch> wrote: |
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>> No. kaffeine for kde3 work fine here with my setup. What I want is to |
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>> find another good solution for watching and recording TV for the time |
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>> when this version of kaffeine will not work any more. |
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> The KDE 3.5 version of Kaffeine is one of the assorted auxiliary |
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> programs adopted by the Trinity Project, so there's still an upstream |
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> trying to maintain it and it will hopefully remain workable for some |
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> time to come. |
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Regarding trinity, what are the chances of having it appear in distros, |
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etc, at least after they finish porting to qt4 (or by then, possibly |
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qt5)? I don't expect it to ever make the big-2 into the big-3, really, |
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but having it appear in the second tier along side xfce and lxde, and |
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whatever they're calling the parallel effort to continue gnome2, could be |
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quite useful. |
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Except that I suppose kde3/trinity is still far bigger in terms of number |
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of apps/packages/size than most of the second tier. But has anyone |
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actually looked to see by how much? Are we talking 10X, 3X. 1.5X, or |
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1.1X? If it's 1.1X than I shouldn't think it'd be a huge problem. 1.5X |
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probably not either. 3X might be, but a stripped down (to say 1.5X) |
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version might ship, with perhaps an alternate, possibly community |
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maintained, repo/overlay/ppa/whatever for those who want the full deal. |
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10X... that's not realistic as a second tier. It'd have to be dedicated |
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distro, and perhaps get popular enough there to go first tier. But I |
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really have no idea. Does anyone? |
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Obviously in current context, "distros" refers to one particular distro, |
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gentoo, but I don't expect it to try it by itself. |
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What do the trinity folks base their own work on, distro-wise? |
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Are there any dedicated trinity distros in the wings? |
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Because, I really can't see trinity continuing "forever", unless it gets |
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some community support and eventually some new community blood. And |
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that's not going to happen, unless it's out there on the distros for |
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people to be exposed to. |
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I have a bit of a personal interest, even tho I'm on kde4 for both my |
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main machine and netbook atm, not only out of nostalgia as a former kde3 |
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user, but because eventually, I can see myself deciding that my netbook |
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really doesn't run kde5 or whatever well enough to be worth the hassle, |
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and kde3 could very well be quite a reasonable fit, at that point. Plus, |
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I could lifestyle change at some point, and given that I've been with kde |
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since the kde2 era, if I downscale from whatever the current kde desktop |
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is at the time, I expect I'd be rather more comfortable with something |
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approaching a modern kde3, than with any of the other second-tier |
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desktops. |
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Mainly, I just like to keep my options open, and assuming trinity does |
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get the qt4/qt5/whatever port done at some point, that really does seem |
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to me to be potentially the most viable "intermediate weight" option I'll |
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have, given my own history and preferences. So naturally, I want to see |
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it continue and mature as a viable option, and the only way I really see |
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that happening, is if it ultimately finishes the qt4/qt5/whatever port |
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and gets reintroduced on the major distros as a second tier option, so I |
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really want /that/ to happen, and the above questions are because I'm |
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wondering just how close to reality that vision is. |
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Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. |
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- |
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and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman |