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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@...>
Subject: Trinity (Was: phonon)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 05:07:02 +0000 (UTC)
E. Liddell posted on Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:46:18 -0500 as excerpted:

> On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:39:00 +0100 Dominique Michel
> <dominique.michel@...> wrote:
> 
>> No. kaffeine for kde3 work fine here with my setup. What I want is to
>> find another good solution for watching and recording TV for the time
>> when this version of kaffeine will not work any more.
> 
> The KDE 3.5 version of Kaffeine is one of the assorted auxiliary
> programs adopted by the Trinity Project, so there's still an upstream
> trying to maintain it and it will hopefully remain workable for some
> time to come.

Regarding trinity, what are the chances of having it appear in distros, 
etc, at least after they finish porting to qt4 (or by then, possibly 
qt5)?  I don't expect it to ever make the big-2 into the big-3, really, 
but having it appear in the second tier along side xfce and lxde, and 
whatever they're calling the parallel effort to continue gnome2, could be 
quite useful.

Except that I suppose kde3/trinity is still far bigger in terms of number 
of apps/packages/size than most of the second tier.  But has anyone 
actually looked to see by how much?  Are we talking 10X, 3X. 1.5X, or 
1.1X?  If it's 1.1X than I shouldn't think it'd be a huge problem.  1.5X 
probably not either.  3X might be, but a stripped down (to say 1.5X) 
version might ship, with perhaps an alternate, possibly community 
maintained, repo/overlay/ppa/whatever for those who want the full deal. 
10X... that's not realistic as a second tier.  It'd have to be dedicated 
distro, and perhaps get popular enough there to go first tier.  But I 
really have no idea.  Does anyone?

Obviously in current context, "distros" refers to one particular distro, 
gentoo, but I don't expect it to try it by itself.

What do the trinity folks base their own work on, distro-wise?

Are there any dedicated trinity distros in the wings?

Because, I really can't see trinity continuing "forever", unless it gets 
some community support and eventually some new community blood.  And 
that's not going to happen, unless it's out there on the distros for 
people to be exposed to.

I have a bit of a personal interest, even tho I'm on kde4 for both my 
main machine and netbook atm, not only out of nostalgia as a former kde3 
user, but because eventually, I can see myself deciding that my netbook 
really doesn't run kde5 or whatever well enough to be worth the hassle, 
and kde3 could very well be quite a reasonable fit, at that point.  Plus, 
I could lifestyle change at some point, and given that I've been with kde 
since the kde2 era, if I downscale from whatever the current kde desktop 
is at the time, I expect I'd be rather more comfortable with something 
approaching a modern kde3, than with any of the other second-tier 
desktops.

Mainly, I just like to keep my options open, and assuming trinity does 
get the qt4/qt5/whatever port done at some point, that really does seem 
to me to be potentially the most viable "intermediate weight" option I'll 
have, given my own history and preferences.  So naturally, I want to see 
it continue and mature as a viable option, and the only way I really see 
that happening, is if it ultimately finishes the qt4/qt5/whatever port 
and gets reintroduced on the major distros as a second tier option, so I 
really want /that/ to happen, and the above questions are because I'm 
wondering just how close to reality that vision is.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman



References:
phonon
-- Dominique Michel
Re: phonon
-- Duncan
Re: Re: phonon
-- Dominique Michel
Re: phonon
-- Duncan
Re: Re: phonon
-- Dominique Michel
Re: Re: phonon
-- E. Liddell
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