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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-desktop@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-desktop] Re: ati-driver 8.16.20 and kernel 2.6.12
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:15:54
Message-Id: pan.2005.08.31.12.08.25.45314@cox.net
In Reply to: [gentoo-desktop] ati-driver 8.16.20 and kernel 2.6.12 by Benjamin Grauer
1 Benjamin Grauer posted <4314E255.3040405@××××××××××××.ch>, excerpted
2 below, on Wed, 31 Aug 2005 00:48:53 +0200:
3
4 > i read on the absolutely lousy ati-page, that the new driver 8.16.20 now
5 > finally supports kernel2.6.12, but the package is not in portage...
6
7 Note that I'm not a developer, so won't address the question of when the
8 new driver might be in portage or why it isn't yet there. This post
9 addresses your other options.
10
11 One option would be to either switch out from the
12 --generally-agreed-lousy-supported-- ATI closed source drivers, to the
13 open source driver that comes with X, or, if you don't like that idea, to
14 switch out your video card to an NVidia, which while the open drives
15 aren't as quite as good as ATI's open drivers, their closed source
16 drivers are all around generally considered far better supported than
17 ATI's.
18
19 <strong-personal-opinion>
20
21 Personally, I refuse to run what I call "slaveryware", that is, drivers
22 that are closed source and therefore not "freedomware". However, I accept
23 that some gamers and the like are willing to live with closed source
24 drivers, preferring to live with the closed source aspect, in ordered to
25 get the hardware accelerated 3D frame-rates. While I consider such a
26 choice the equivalent of selling one's soul to the devil -- supporting a
27 company that refuses to open up their sources for /proper/ open source
28 support, that's a personal opinion that I realize others don't necessarily
29 share, and to force my opinion on others would be more rights violating
30 than the companies refusing to support open source.
31
32 </strong-personal-opinion>
33
34 Anyway, if one /is/ going to go the closed source route anyway, almost
35 everybody agrees NVidia offers far better closed source driver support
36 than ATI, so that's the way to go, again, if you /must/ choose to run
37 closed source drivers. (FWIW, I run ATI Radeon 9200s here, since that's
38 the latest ATI hardware with full specs available, and therefore decent
39 open source accelerated 3D support.)
40
41 Of course, another viable option would be returning to a kernel <2.6.12.
42
43 Finally, since you say the new closed source drivers aren't in portage
44 yet, you have the option of installing them using ATI's install
45 procedure, and using package.provided to tell portage they are installed,
46 if anything else in portage requires them.
47
48 --
49 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
50 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
51 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in
52 http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html
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Re: [gentoo-desktop] Re: ati-driver 8.16.20 and kernel 2.6.12 Benjamin Grauer <bensch@××××××××××××.ch>
Re: [gentoo-desktop] Re: ati-driver 8.16.20 and kernel 2.6.12 Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@g.o>