Gentoo Archives: gentoo-desktop

From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@×××.net>
To: gentoo-desktop@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-desktop] Re: System problems
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:53:45
Message-Id: pan.2011.03.20.21.51.44@cox.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-desktop] Re: System problems by Lindsay Haisley
1 Lindsay Haisley posted on Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:48:43 -0500 as excerpted:
2
3 > On Sun, 2011-03-20 at 11:50 -0500, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
4 >> This problem box has been running Gentoo since 2004, but my work and
5 >> priorities on my time have changed over the years and it's probably
6 >> time to move on.
7 >
8 > To be a bit more precise here, I'm actively working on replacing this
9 > box, and will be running a Linux distribution on it other than Gentoo.
10 > But in the meantime, I do need to solve the problem about which I
11 > posted.
12
13 I appreciate that you /have/ decided to ultimately switch, and obviously
14 believe it best or I'd have not recommend it.
15
16 I also appreciate that you need a solution for now. That's what I suspect
17 I may have provided (at least to a point) further down that post, which
18 you may not have read given the order.
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20 I was hoping to read all these replies and have you tell me whether I was
21 on the right track or not, answering the question about initrd/initramfs
22 so we could go from there if need be. However, I don't see that answer,
23 which suggests you didn't read that far down my post, for which I can't
24 really blame you.
25
26 But you can always go back and do it now... =:^)
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28 Briefly repeating so you can see if it's worth your trouble going back to
29 get the details.
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31 If the kernel could not load its initial root, be that initr* or the real-
32 root, it'd fail to load any userspace at all as it couldn't get to it,
33 panicking instead when it couldn't get to a root at all. (I know this
34 from experience.)
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36 Thus, that it's getting even a /limited/ userspace indicates it's getting
37 to it's initial root. That's a very significant point.
38
39 The question from there is whether that limited userspace is loading from
40 the initrd/initramfs if you have one, indicating it's not successfully
41 doing the initial real-root mount and pivot-root from the initr*, taking
42 you down one path toward a solution (missing or incorrect drivers in the
43 initr* or wrong initrd), or whether it's loading the real-root (as just
44 getting to userspace at all indicates if you don't have an initr*), thus
45 indicating that it has the necessary drivers (both pata and fs) to do so,
46 and the problem is later, with the fsck or remount, taking you down a
47 different path toward a solution (userspace issue).
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49 If that sounds useful, check the earlier post for more. If it doesn't,
50 don't bother, as that's what I was detailing in the earlier post.
51
52 --
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54 "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
55 and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman