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From: Lindsay Haisley <fmouse-gentoo@...>
Subject: Re: 8 days now!!
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 23:02:27 -0600
Thus spake lists on Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 08:25:36AM CST
> I needed lots of sleep.  Right now I don't have a CD burner. I am using it
> to boot from.  I am running from a knoppix CD.  I think there is a way to
> fix this without starting over.  I have chrooted in to my new HD, I
> downloaded a 2006.1 stage3, I did the env-update && source etc/profile...
> I will be working on this and reading through as much as I can find about
> it today.  If I can't get anywhere with it, I can get a CD from my friend
> some time next week.  Good luck with the ALSA stuff.  You may need to
> recompile the kernel with that.

Lack of sleep on top of frustration makes it really difficult to do good 
diagnostic work.  Please take the time to obtain, and then work from a current 
install disk.  Please report carefully, concisely and accurately any ebuild 
errors you get.  Full compile records aren't helpful, just the topmost error in 
an ebuild output down to the ebuild boilerplate about reporting the error above 
that point.  It might be helpful to post the output of 'emerge info'.  If you 
are having app crashes, run the problem GUI apps from a CLI and report the 
output to your terminal - segfaults, GTK messages, etc.  Keep a good record of 
what you do.

I would strongly advise you to follow the Gentoo install step-by-step docs _to 
the letter_!  Gentoo generally has very good instructions, and many times I've 
found that problems I've had in installs and complex upgrades have been the 
result of leaving out some step which at first didn't seem important but in 
retrospect was critical.  This will also help people on this list help you 
since everyone can be on the same page as far as the steps you've taken and 
where things have failed.

> It is hard for me to even get to my email now.  I need my evolution and 
> firefox passwords!! damn!!

FWIW, Evolution is a real bear!  It's an absolutely brilliant piece of design 
supported by very mediocre software engineering.  It's no wonder the Ximian 
people aren't on the scene anymore.   I also use Evolution, and have fights 
with it periodically.  My mail access is all via IMAP, and I have a cron job 
which backs up my calendar, and my contacts are all backed up in LDAP on my 
servers, so when Evolution trashes my personal data, which it does 
periodically, I have working backups.  My favorite MUA is still Mutt, which I 
fall back on with relative ease when Evo craps out on me.  Thunderbird is 
coming along, and with the Lightning plugin (and it's standalone equiv.  
Sunbird) it's going to be running Evo some good competition in a year or two. 

Lindsay Haisley       | "Fighting against human |     PGP public key
FMP Computer Services |    creativity is like   |      available at
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                      |      (Pamela Jones)     |
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